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brah this situation is hilairous

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Thiccc Mexican259

I'm not gonna lie, I saw this ep last week and thought, "wait...that was it? But she already got punished for it." This ep was straight clown shoes

Himothy

I'm so glad i wasn't the only one who couldn't take this backstory seriously she was acting like she was a terrorist or some shit lmao

Peter Lee

"Its probably shop lifting" Sheeringan

Mima

i could barely finish this ep last week second hand embarrassment was gettin me. they're so unserious

Nikan

They had proof because she told Nagumo in order to gain entry into the Student Council. The meeting between Nagumo and Arisu was a lot more in detail and that’s how she knew. Nagumo had a much bigger part to play in the LN in comparison to the anime

Coreyy

Y’all gotta remember. This is Ichinose herself who is saying this is an “unforgivable crime.” She wants to be a good person, she wants to be seen as a good person, she wants to make up for her crime. While also being in Japan so it ain’t exactly the same as just stealing a pack of gum, but it also isn’t some Shonen anime “I killed my entire clan and deserted the village” type of crime. Also her mom was leaving her food in front of the door cuz Ichinose literally shut herself in her room for 6 months straight. How else was her mom supposed to get any type of food or anything to her?

Kisuke01

We know it's a nothing burger this a pretty weak volume I can understand I'd you're super goody two shoes why it would serious but from our perspective it's dumb. It would've been better if she got arrested or some and it was on her record cause than that's something big for a high school kid

Nick

koji isn't the source of the original rumors. he just posted the rumors of the other classes so the school would get involved to stop ichinose's downfall

blue snivy

we aint watching deaths game or w.e that anime was called 😅😂😂

Solemnity

I think he did it to make it not become a future blindside to her (and possibly him by extension) if anyone were to find out at some point.

SmittyWerbenjägermanjensen

Her crime was almost nothing, but it just shows how pure hearted she is if she thinks that was an unforgivable crime 😂 Ps: There was an end credits scene

Kingmakaii

Bro I would of looked at her like nigga what don’t nobody give af about that shit nigga we thought you was finna say you killed someone something 😭

Miguel

I bet that was everyone reaction about her “sin” 😂

TrinitytheApostle

Correct. And to create a reliability on him so if she does have some sort of emotional problem she would be more likely to come to him again

Ayanda Mpofu

Half way through i thought that story was fake.

redjmonn

It’s stupid ash to us but yk in Japan with them low crime rates shit like shoplifting frowned upon that’s why she tweaking it’s a difference in culture fr

TrinitytheApostle

Not really since the girl who went to kojis room last ep said she shoplifted and ichinose commited the same crime

Noel

There was an end credit seen in this ep but I don’t think it’s was that important

Anonymous

Call me a nerd for this long-ass post but I gotta explain the whole "Ichinose shoplifter" part. Arisu was looking at Ichinose's past in both social reputation and a realistic approach. That's what Arisu was trying to do here when she says that it doesn't matter that she confessed to her classmates, the fact remains that she's a criminal. Arisu was being realistic and she didn't want to give Ichinose any sympathy. And this is why she lost here because after Ichinose confessed and told her past, her classmates were quick to understand that her crime was basically "nothing of value". After all, she's such a nice person. Arisu thought that with Ichinose confessing, she would lose her authority as a class leader, and she would lose her friends here which may lead to her quitting school (which explains why Arisu said she would save Class B because their points are being held by a criminal)

Camari Selvy

in japan things like stealing is a bigger deal than in the us

Kevin Kovacs

Same! Ichinose is like the "Orihime type" that just cares about everybody who gets hurt or help them.

Rocksolo2

Y’all should know that in this day and age it’s real easy for information to get to one school to another 😭

Kevin Kovacs

well.. it is I think right? Because Ichinose is pretty much starting to have feeling/crushing on Koji giving him valentine chocolate and to be the first guy that she gives chocolate for.

Xavier Baker

whats wild is that this Manga/Novel and its anime Adaptation is supposed to show a complex web of intricate back and forth for number one,but all I see is a stage for Ayanokoji to just constantly show his dicksize as it continues to increase while also baggin all the bitches in the land bro

Devin B

You guys got to remember that this is Japan and not America. Japan has strict morals when it comes to certain things so even though stealing something for $300 wouldn't be a big deal in America to a parent it's a really big deal for a parent in Japan because they equate that to having a bad character and the mom doesn't want Ichinose to go down that path.

Kevin Kovacs

She is THAT type of girl who just blames herself for ever little things that would harm somebody and making a big fuss about it.

Ventura

I think it was more of a society thing with Japan and the plot being "you're going to trust ALL of your points with someone who has stolen something expensive in the past". I also think this was just a play by Sakayanagi to plant doubt in class B if any was there, she wasn't expecting much.

Koji

missed the ending scene... that face from her broke me!! </3

Saucy Jonathan

Clown shoes It felt like I was watching a Baki episode 😭🙏

Anonymous

LN reader here to help you guys out a little the original rumours that were spread were done by Class A and Sakayanagi, the secondary ones where it was bringing in other people in Class C was done by Ayanokoji through the information that he gained from Kushida. Also while I was with you in laughing about how unserious her “crime” was in Japan apparently even petty crimes are frowned upon very differently out there

Sixaxis112

Besides the slapping, I feel like the mom did the right thing.

Bossman15blaze

Damn they missed the after credits

Dolfy

As others said, Ayanokoji was the one who spready the rumors Wave 2. He spread rumors about himself even so no one would suspect a thing. You missed after credits too

Herp Strike

can't take ts seriously bruh 😭😭

lilllllllllil

It's one thing for it to be a little shitpiece hairclip but it being overpriced is nutty lmao.

King of New York

Here’s some answers to your guys’ questions:
 - The reason Sakayanagi knew about Ichinose’s past is because Ichinose told Nagumo about her past to get entry into the student council as their secretary. Nagumo told Sakayanagi about Ichinose's past presumably so that she could destroy Ichinose and he could go and "save her" (you'll see more of Nagumo wanting to get involved with Ichinose in the next few eps) . When Sakayanagi had that meeting with Nagumo in EP 3 of this season that’s when she told him she was finally going to attack her. - The reason they made the hair clip such a big deal is partially because of 1) The price (About $200 USD) 2) Stealing is way way worse in Japanese culture but MAINLY because 3) Ayanokoji had a conversation with Horikita in the novel about who at the school is truly a good person and they agreed that Ichinose is the only person in the school who is genuinely a good person. The shoplifting was the only bad thing she ever did in her life and it was driving her insane. Even her class once she told them was like “Yeah it’s fine we don’t really care.” because she was her own hater more than anyone. - Her mom wasn’t treating her like a prisoner. Ichinose was the one who locked herself in her room without going outside because she was super depressed that she not only disappointed her mom but broke the law even if it was minor. Her mom tried to help her constantly. - What Ayanokoji did in all this was visit Ichinoses room everyday for a week until she confessed the crime to him and that gave her the courage to face sakayanagi head-on. The main person who was hating for the crime was Ichinose herself so if she owned up to it and moved forward it wouldn’t matter at all . This is why Sakayanagi left after Ichinose started owning up to it because there was no point anymore. - The “Ichinose is a criminal” rumour came from Sakayanagi, but Ayanokoji got Kushida to give all her information on people in their year and gave it as “rumours” to the vice-president to spread on the school forum. He’s actually the one who spread the rumour about himself that “Ayanokoji likes Karuizawa” as a cover so he didn’t look suspicious. - You missed the special ED only for this episode it was pretty cool. Also there was an after credits building Ayanokoji and Ichinose's relationship more.

Jacob The weird

Y’all missed the post credit scene lol

Sum1s0mewhere

It's a cultural thing, the whole shoplifting thing in Japan, or like any crime, even if it's something small, kinda how some people have fought over someone creasing our shoes. It's a big deal for some, that's what I'm trying to say lol

Ryan Ryan

Hell even my parents would scold the fuck out of me and slap me if i would steal something that’s worth €300. Imagine stealing a whole Nintendo switch no parent would be cool with it even over here. So yeah doing it in Japan is even wilder

Devin B

I can see a parent scolding their kid about stealing something worth $300 but I don't see most parents going as far as to go back to the place the kid stole from and apologizing to them

Skebaba

How did they have proof tho? No criminal charges were ever raised, because the store didn't report it, it's basically no proof other than Ichinose's word which could be called cap at any point in the future w/o any proof like a criminal case officially recorded by the police etc

Skebaba

No I'm quite sure that Arisu originally planned for Ichinose to clam up & not explain herself but just shut in her own room, which would have caused the class to distrust her. Ayanokoji BTFO'd her gambit by mentally breaking Ichinose the night previously, and since she was already mindbroken she was able to just confess that shit outright to the class instead of shutting down, hence why Arisu had that chat w/ Ayanokoji after the gambit & all that, asking him if she told him about it before that

Nikan

If the person accused says it’s true that’s the proof lmao

Jinkingu

Yeaaa this is class room of the skip content 💀💀

Daniel Turner

lucky only got a slap for a 300 theft, I got Jamaican parents would've got the belt and then sum

Deku Kana

Clown shoes situation

TrinitytheApostle

That and along with how pure ichinose is and her morals. Her conscience couldn't accept even something like stealing as small. That's how kind and pure she is at heart

Ryan Ryan

Ikr 💀 even my parents would slap the shit out of me if i robbed some shit that’s worth 300 that’s like robbing a whole Nintendo switch 😭

Arz.09

yeah thats pretty much the plot, it's for ayanokoji to bag every bitch and flex on niggas while the viewer goes "wow i wish i was like him"

Dee

Facts man. Idk what everybody else talking about because if I stole $300 worth of stuff, I don’t think I would have saw the next sunrise tbh 😂

john

my parents beat me up one time for stealing $5 from my moms pocket. it was very very effective till this day i am very careful with money.

john

i feel like roshi and team's perception of crime is bit shifted, to a normal upstanding person going through life normally stealing is a soul shattering, any type of crime would plunge them into depression.

faded

Your parents beating you up is worse than the stealing imo

john

you guys really underestimate kushida, she gets everyone to confess there deepest darkest secret with her friendly face. she use that with people like current president and ryuen last season to get what she wants. secrets are very powerful tool to manipulate people.

john

its probably not for everyone, depends completely on a individual.

john

one time beating = life time of a lesson, very controversial method but it did achieve the intended results. should probably add i am Asian.

Tsuki

It’s japan, theft is a big thing there apparently

Arkan Matlub

Crime is ridiculous, but for a middle aged student to steal 300 bucks and feel guilty, then mom finding out, slapped her (assuming she never got slapped before), turning back the item then crying so hard like she never did in front of the children, it all culminated into a big event of her just hating herself. Withdrawing for 6 months is crazy but it isn’t easy nonetheless. A personality like her doesn’t want to disappoint, but she disappointed her mother, her sister, the store owners, and ultimately, herself.

Arkan Matlub

I genuinely thought Sakayanagi after the story would say sum like ”That’s the wrong story, you forgot the detail where you caused vehicular manslaughter during a robbery tryna steal that hairclip”

Room

I mean hey reputation is a really big thing in Japan and in general so i can understand

Wild

I understand the mom making a big deal out of it cause once u do something that’s labeled bad for some people it basically opens the gates to do more bad, it’s the same reason many robbers are so dumb they get away with one heist earn a ton of money but then they want more money so they try to steal over and over again until they get caught, it’s happened to me where I’ve stolen things and then I start doing it over and over again cause I’m confident I won’t get caught now I stopped by my own after thinking about the future if I got caught and stopped all together but it is a real thing so make sure if u have kids make that shit traumatic for them make stealing feel worst than murder

Luffy_77

Okay I'm assuming shoplifting in Japan is the equivalent of finding your middle school kid smoking weed, since the standards are more strict over there with everything else so I understand why we feel is a small crime cuz it's just so normal to us in the US. And to the part where they left her food by her door, it wasn't the mom bugging rather she was probably locked up in her room and just didnt wanna go out anywhere for some time not even to eat with her family.

Luffy_77

Also I think its cuz it might be more serious in Japan given how high social standards are over there, its normal to us in america cuz it just happens so much so I'm assuming thats why the anime made it a big deal since stuff is different over there

CleoKujo

Lmfaoo roshi “I’m sick of this bihh” 🤣

Random Guy

In the end everyone was just dancing in the palm of Ayanokoji's hand lmao

Matrim Hall

The crime was nothing, but I think her mom traumatized her with her response.