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Hype for the last episode

Prime

Damn didn’t know season 3 was out already! /s

Mubarez Ahmad

Why does lupa always have a band aid on his arm?

PJ Rivera

Wow season 3 already roshi? Y’all speed running we ain’t done with season 2 yet🤣

Anonymous

Roshi always skippin seasons smh smh

Azaria

let’s goo watching after work and have food

Kevinsog24

Bros in the future

Anonymous

hulu finna give you the barry berkman treatment for leaking season 3

LisMM

2x9?

Najee Robinson

Y’all got the directors cut for season 3, that’s krazy

Helpy

Did I just wake up from a coma? How we in S3 already

Josetta Wootson

Yes Carmy was having a panic attack but the thought of syd calmed him down.

Jessie

LOL SHEERA "michelin staaaaar" 🤣🤣🤣 stooop!! I didn't know other people felt that way about Carmy and Claire too. That's validating. I remember getting annoyed by those scenes when first watching. I always liked the idea of Carmy being married to his passion and too buried in chaos for anything outside of that. But I guess that's not healthy lol

Semaj Brown

So I’m from Chicago. Born and raised. Heard about the bartman story. To give y’all some extra context to the story. The guy became so hated that he had to leave Chicago. Realistically he basically had to go off the grid. Like just disappear cause everyone hated him. He got death threats. His family as well. He was the most hated guy for the play. Years later when the cubs won the championship, they found him and if I remember correctly. They sent him a championship ring or something

Akila Yaw

YEAHHHHHH….a whole ass season 3x9! We got season 3 before it even came out!! Nah man, dis is fire 🔥, season 3 lookin good so far!

Anonymous

damn season 3 premiered here??? That’s crazy‼️‼️

Khayta

Totally agree w u guys on the Carmie/Claire scenes as well as Teddy/Parissa. I think if it makes for a good payoff tho with Carmie and Claire

Teyon Alexander

You love the show so much you’re a whole season ahead!

Robert

It’d be nice if he liked doing that. But he doesn’t. He got good in the industry due to spite. A big part of me expects the ending to be to leave the industry, but I also get this restaurant was his and Mikey’s dream so dunno if him leaving the industry is the ideal route.

Robert

Josh cutting carrots like a mf. It’s wild. The throwing down line Carmy says to Marcus is a callback to season 1 episode 1 when Marcus says it to Carmy because of the bread tip.

Robert

Claire’s Bartman in this scenario. Carmy’s Gonzalez.

Devin B

Can't wait for the season 3 finale. Season 2 went by quick.

Anonymous

That under the table scene was real romantical yk ;)

Divinerights

No one can tell if syd/ carmy is inevitable or not. But he stopped panicking as soon as he thought of syd and that whole table talk

RPSiege

I swear, if Claire didn’t talk with other people, I would think she was imaginary. Something feels so fake about her, almost like she’s too perfect

Robert

Roshi’s feeling the vibes a lot of people felt with the scene. I’m with Sheera and Lupa on the scene that it’s meant to be platonic, but it’s definitely intimate.

Jessie

Right?! I got the same vibe. It's like she just exists for Carmy. I thought it was kinda weird writing for such a stellar show.

Mikaylin

ROSHI WAS RIGHT There are feelings there between Carm and Syd

zacharie garondo

Love the scene with the table because when one was confessing the other was holding the table like a metaphor for being each other support

Vongola Fiamme

Syd being what carm thinks about to center himself and calm down, that whole convo under the table, syd being jealous… there’s a lot of will they won’t they here but who knows what the writers are cookin. S/N I will never understand people’s complete disliking of Claire lol

Anonymous

Would not be mad at Sydney/Carm in season 3 Roshi onto something

Aniki Pft

Roshi is definitely right about the Syd and the Carmy thing. As he was outside he was thinking of both Syd and Claire. He unfortunately associates Claire with his destruction family while also acknowledging that Claire is a distraction. Syd keeps him focused and on point and I think that's a big thing he admires about her. That conversation he had with her felt too intimate and real as they both express how they make each other better at what they do. Don't think I'm reaching either, it would make no sense for him to think of Claire then automatically jump to Syd. I could be wrong though.

Anonymous

Carmy having a panic attack and thinking of Syd wasn't romantic IMO. It was just that Syd reminded him of the kitchen which calmed him down and when he thought of Claire, she reminded him of his past which brought up even more stressful memories

Aniki Pft

@RPSiege I understand, I think that's the point. That's probably why it scares Carmy so much.

Frederick

26:43 “Cups of the Rose” 😂

Anonymous

As someone who doesn't really care for Claire either, I myself see them building something between Syd and Carmy & ik A LOT of ppl agree & hope to see something happen. if it does happen its DEF a slowburn typa deal tho

Hasnain Khan

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

AllanJ

Need the trio to try a Michelin-starred restaurant now so they can understand what they've been missing out on. If you guys are planning a trip to Chicago in the future, try to reserve a table at Alinea. If it ain't bussin' I'll comp the bill 🤣

Dee

Carm is "Bear" and Michael was Mikey Bear. I don't think it's ever mentioned, but I'm guessing Natalie was "Sugar bear" but the bear was silent.

Oni Legend

The thing about the under the table shot with Carmy and Syd that Roshi mentioned he loved, is that i think its in the way that its set up and followed on during their conversation. Like the way them being under the table is placed in the shot almost makes a natural framing of them together as if they’re in a room or a box having their heart to heart. And its delivered on even more because when the camera zooms in, it almost zooms in so the edges of the table end up becoming the border of the frame and we get even closer into the space and box they’re in. I think it’s like the exact opposite of the scene where Carmy and Claire were in the car and despite them being so close, we still only cut between 2 close up shots rather than them together in the car in 1 shot so it almost gave like there’s a distance between them. I don’t know if the implication with the Carm and Syd thing was romantic but i can definitely see the parallel between the shots just kind of showing when Carmy’s on the same level of understanding, faith, and communication with someone else and they’re connected(the table scene with Syd) vs when he isn’t and theres still distance between them(the car scene with Claire)

kelly

The conversation under the table is very intimate which is why so many people misunderstand it for romantic. There is a depth of intimacy that Carmy and Syd have with one another as artists, collaborators, friends and the only people who really truly understand them in this aspect etc.. There is an understanding and a respect and affection for one another that goes deep which is why witnessing it feels that way. And that's not to say it could never be romantic between them. I don't personally feel one way or the other about it, but its not intimate because its romantic or platonic. Its intimate because that's the sort of connection they've built with one another. Its the reason they chose one another. I thought it was a really beautiful moment in their development together. When Carmy says that Syd makes him better, I think that's true for them both. They bring out the best in one another. Their truest selves. Like recognizes like and they've changed each other's lives. Also. In regard to the panic attack moment I think that Carmy seeing Syd and calming makes sense since they seen to ground each other quite a bit.

Amberlynn

even the way their/claire's scenes are shot and edited are completely different than the rest of the show, a lot brighter and with a different type of filter on the edges that you'd usually see in other movies and shows when the character is in a dream or non-reality state. it took me some time after my first watch of this season to realize claire's purpose as a character. not the biggest fan of her, but the "why" makes a difference in why i don't completely hate her lol

Anonymous

Like besides the stuff that happened in this episode, flashing back to the prev episode during that montage after carmy declared claire his girlfriend, I find it kind of interesting that they also intercut clips of Sydney. & as someone pointed out to me a couple weeks ago, one of those clips highlighted Sydney's three of swords tattoo which I looked up & it symbolizes grief, loss, & heartbreak. I could be reaching but I think that tattoo perfectly sums up Sydney's character as a whole with her relationship with her dad, the restaurant, and w/ carmy. this show is very particular about details so I'm sure the symbolism was intentional.

Blackbulls6

Sydney eating left Twix because she spent 18k sampling all the food in Chicago in that one episode

Devin B

I might be in the minority when I say this but I hope that Carmy and Syd don't become a thing. They're great friends, coworkers, and business partners but I can't see them together in a romantic way. If anything I see Marcus and Syd becoming more of a thing than Carmy and Syd.

Devin B

Plus I don't mind the Claire scenes too much because those are one of the few times where we see Carmy actually happy.

beannieswife

i don't comment a lot but i have to say that i didn't like claire since the very beginning, her first scene with carmy was SO cringe to me, it felt so out of place, it was like the tone of the show switched to an uncomfortable place for me lmao, yeah it was that serious

RPSiege

@Aniki Pft They definitely succeed at helping the audience feel like we’re waiting for the shoe to drop as well. I feel so uneasy when she’s on screen. It’s just such a contrast to the rest of the show

Anonymous

there was definitely something deeper during that conversation between syd and carmy fs

starshine

Nah roshi is the only one that was correctly feeling the vibe. The energy with Sydney and Carmy felt a little more than just platonic under that table

Alejandra P.

Yeah, I think maybe we’ll see next season dealing with professional and personal life. Right now, the opening of the restaurant, with all hopes and doubts, was the season.

xtina

That’s the point of her character. We’re not supposed to look too deep into Claire because she’s not meant to have any underlying meaning or purpose besides being a plot device.

Champion Bescos

Can’t stand the Syd/Carmy ship, not that I think it’ll happen. Just once I’d love a female and male lead to remain platonic like, y’know, real life? Forced romantic tension between leads is exhausting, but it also contributes to the stupid mindset that a moderately attractive guy and girl in the same space or with similar interests just HAVE to catch feelings for each other. That’s a more annoying trope to me than the ‘manic pixie girl’ that Claire is.

Jah

W season 3

Bria A.

I like Claire very much for who she is (genuinely supportive, badass med student, sense of humor, etc.) and it is actually very realistic to see two people so drastically different getting together for the sole reason that they care about each other. That said, I think they would’ve done better to have her in the background in S1 for some buildup, and also…the narrative writing and camera blocking of their interactions just seems very surreal and almost out of place to me lol.

Bria A.

Pretty sure Sugar is just a standalone nickname from the gravy incident. 😕 It’s nice that it could be, though, as a way of her reclaiming it maybe.

Anonymous (edited)

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2024-02-10 02:23:12 nah i feel you. and i hate that the pushback against their platonic relationship is 'well their connection is TOO DEEP to just be friends' as if some of the deepest relationships aren't friendships. they can 100% be soulmates with a beautiful connection without being romantic
2024-02-08 01:54:45

lyssa

This was a great season three episode

Anonymous

Sydney and Carmen are most definitely Endgame. Or at the very least they will fuck around and find out. We know that kitchens stress Carmen. Restaurants stress him. Being a chef stresses him. He even says as much too Richie at the beginning of the seasons. And yet the walking embodiment of all of those things calms him down? That's not just a chef mind meld. There are definitely feelings there and I could 100% see them becoming more. I only feel sorry for my boy Marcus.😭.

Devin B

Facts, I want Carmy and Syd to just be about their business and that's it. I don't need to see them be intimate with each other.

Kumi Chan

Sheera tripping 😭

John Cedar

Yeah seriously, the entire time during that montage I was like, "Ok she's spent at least like $400 at this point" and also "Is her stomach a bottomless pit?" How did she eat all of that by herself? 😂

Champion Bescos

I think a lot of people simply refuse to understand both the narrative purpose and the specific character appeal (for Carmy) with Claire. A lot of the criticisms I see boil down to A) she’s a transparent narrative device or B) she has no personality and/or is unrealistic. Let’s start with the latter. There be so much hate for how ‘unnaturally written’ she is, but as I said a couple weeks back, people like her ABSOLUTELY EXIST. Just like Richie’s exist in the world and Donna’s exist and Syd’s exist, there is an abundance of Claire’s out there. In fact, we all probably know a couple if we think hard enough. Her inclusion and her writing are not unrealistic - they simply go against everything else in the show, or rather, they clash with the writing of every other character. Intentionally so., as she doesn’t come from their (culinary, toxic) world. That’s what throws people off… aside from the Syd and Carmy shippers who just want their favorites together, no matter what. Lol. First off, Claire’s passion isn’t remotely related to the food industry, so we never get to see her passionate/wild/driven side when she is at work because this isn’t a hospital/medical drama. Not seeing that makes viewers think she lacks a proper personality or a progressive drive as opposed to the other characters. That’s just not true. It’s implied she is WILD for her job. She loves it and it takes up most of her daily life. Realistically, Carmy wouldn’t see that side to her just yet, just like she hasn’t seen his wild side (yet). It’s the honeymoon phase! Shit is always good and seemingly easy and simple in the honeymoon phase. So what Carmy sees (what we see) is just her being chill and flirty and easy going and a bit detached. Second off, she is meant to come across as dreamy. She represents the childhood crush of the protagonist - the unattainable girl who he wished spoke to him - long before he EVER stepped foot in a culinary school or professional kitchen. Only now she’s grown up, successful, beautiful, and still (surprisingly) interested in him. She’s cool with all of his friends and family, something that’s important to someone like Carmy, and yet she’s also not attached to them in a claustrophobic way. She is lit and shot and presented as an impossibility or an improbability - a fever dream that struck out of the blue. It’s the same way I felt about my wife when I first met her! My question is, why is the ‘fever dream’ angle of her so bad? Like, y’all ever been in love with someone that was just that good for you? Lastly, that’s my whole point. Claire is GOOD for Carmy. She cares for him, supports him, pursues him, wants to be with him, knows his family and friends yet doesn’t live in their toxic and gritty world, and most of all she makes him HAPPY. Only problem is, as we’ve long learned, Carmy doesn’t know what happiness is. Doesn’t know what to do with it. He doesn’t have fun at the restaurant by his own admission in episode one of this season. Conversely, he has fun with Claire! But he gets in the way of his own happiness, self sabotaging as he is. Steven - the most grounded member of Carmy’s family - summed it up perfectly. Claire is “a good thing”. The show runners are spelling it out for us. Yet, for some reason… we root against Carmy being happy and healthy and getting away from the restaurant. We want him to be with an equally obsessive chef romantically or simply want him to be married to his corrosive job. It’s crazy.!

Anonymous

My man Carmy find happiness for the first time IN LIFE and everybody’s like “eh we don’t care” 😂😂😂

Uly A O

This ep gets me hyped whenever I watch the last one. I truly think it’s like the best ep of season 2. I do hope they don’t have Sydney and Carmy end up together. Their bond as friends/business partners effectively is amazing. I feel like it would sour it. You can still love and care for your friends without it turning romantic and I hope it continues that way. The writers for the show have been doing awesome, and hoping the same level of awesomeness in the next season yet to come.

Shanice Brunson

I knowww roshi notices syd and carmy ;)

cmbbosh

Idk why, but I’m stressed that the fridge is gonna be the downfall of episode 10

Kevante Caldwell

Roshi just instantly got shut down on an opinion he is most likely right about syd and charm def have something a little more

Matthew Osteen

The issue with Michelin stars is that because it was started/Operates in France they tend to skew heavily towards restaurants that serve French cuisine or adopt the French idea of what a good restaurant is supposed to be. Different cultures have different ideas of what a "Fine Dining" experience is and this has been an issue with Michelin stars if you look at the list of winners in the past. Restaurants that adopt foods from other cultures besides French have a hard time getting Michelin Stars for that reason since that culture might have different standards when it comes to their cuisines. I personally would only trust Michelin Star restaurants if they were French restaurants since the company would be able to better judge the authenticity of the food/Experience. I wouldn't trust Michelin if I wanted to try a really good African American restaurant for instance.

Anonymous

Marcus has the worst timing

Imari

Y’all don’t feel the vibes between carmy and syd I’m so sorry 😭

xtina

We want Claire/Sydney

Anonymous

The way it was explained to me: 1-star is cool to go to if you live by one or have time on a trip. 2-stars if they're within 150 miles of where you live/travelling to. 3-stars are worth planning a trip around. I've only ever been to a 1-star while in Tokyo and the experience was unforgettable. I went with a Japanese friend, but made the reservation under my name. Obviously I was expecting my friend to read the menu and explain everything to me, but when we got to the restaurant they had a menu in english already prepared and our server greeted us in english. After living in Japan for 3 years, I'd never gotten special service like that so it was different. Really cool experience. Food was great too, I had this 5 course octopus inspired meal that started off with octopus salad dish, then really fancy takoyaki, then some soup with tentacles, then inky black pasta, then like a braised octopus at the end with oranges. Server explained every dish and you could tell a lot of thought went into it and also the portions were so small that even if I didn't particularly like it, I could still finish each dish but most of it was really really good.

Anonymous

exactly!!! i'm going down with this ship. the naysayers remind me of when people would say the same thing about rick and michonne. "mutual respect" "not romantic"... i believe in carmy x syd!!!

Anonymous

Au Cheval in Chicago has a Michelin Star and sell a fried bologna sandwich

Edboy

Wow I agree and also are you a writer cause you dissected that perfectly

Khayta

Love Lupa referencing Skully at 35:00

Khayta

Roshi right lowkey, I'm feeling the Carmie and Syd vibes

PetersThimble

Roshi is def right about the romantic vibes lmao Syd has idolized Carmy since they met and Carmy feels better when hes around Syd. He literally was having a panic attack and the very THOUGHT of Syd made him calm and smile idk why yall haven't picked up on it

Anonymous

Syd’s pops is Meteor Man

CentipedeKid

I just don't see it. I can barely see them being business partners after the shit Syd pulled in season one. I'm still pissed at her and Marcus for never apologizing.

SmittyWerbenjägermanjensen

I feel you guys on the Claire scenes. But I also kind of enjoy them too since we get to see Carmy actually live a little. She's not a bad character like people say she is, but she could still be just as good of a character with half of the scenes she's getting Oh also, in Canada we call the donut holes timbits (comes from tim hortons). Does anyone actually know the proper term?

CentipedeKid

I feel Carmy when it comes to those panic attacks I've been getting them everyday lately. Shit sucks.

Isaiah Cox

Damn can Sheera not hate on this girl for 5 seconds????

Anonymous

In that regard it reminds me a lot of the relationship between Don and Peggy in Mad Men. I wouldn't be upset if Carmy and Sydney end up together, but I would enjoy to see their relationship mirror Don and Peggy's dynamic.

Anonymous

This is exactly how I feel and I haven't been able to put it into words but this is so on point. I get into so many arguments with my friends who are all Carmy/Syd shippers and they diss Claire 24/7 smh

nickhaze

Thank you for this, alot of these comments are so ignorant and I hope they take the time to read.

Anonymous

This is exactly how I feel. Kinda like Ted and Rebecca if yall have watched Ted Lasso. There can be great platonic chemistry between a guy and a girl without it turning romantic smh

Robert

@CentipedeKid I’m more about why people want Syd to be in a relationship with Carmy. He has yelled at her during times of stress. Bailed on her when they’ve made plans. He’s dropped a bunch of responsibility on her in both seasons without proper support. That’s all red flags for a relationship IMO, dunno why Syd would think of Carmy as a romantic option given how she’s been treated in their professional relationship.

Anonymous

Maybe its just me, but I feel like a Carmy/Syd relationship will ruin the entire dynamic of The Bear, the kitchen, the business, etc and just add so much extra romance drama to the show that would mess it up. I like how right now the only romance in the show can be kept outside of the business and kitchen. I don't want the show to lose what makes it so good by adding relationship drama inside of the kitchen and business messing around with everything and other chefs/employees.

Anonymous

Also to add to the fact that she doesn't live in his toxic world, you can see in episode 6 that a lot of relationships (Nat with Pete, Michelle with Stevie, Richie with Tiffany) like all of the members of the family went for partners are relatively calm and like the complete opposite of their toxic family dynamic. Claire is a perfect representation of a person who is the opposite of Carm and so good for him and what he needs. He just needs time to figure himself out.

Anonymous

I also to add that in episode 6 a lot of relationships (Nat with Pete, Michelle with Stevie, Richie with Tiffany) like all of the members of the family went for partners are relatively calm and like the complete opposite of their toxic family dynamic. Claire is a perfect representation of a person who is the opposite of Carm and so good for him and what he needs. That's why I don't get all this Carm/Syd shipping and if Carm works on himself and is genuinely in a good place and stops self sabotaging, him and Claire would be perfect for each other.

Anonymous

Yeah like the way they frame the scenes if Claire and Carmy together is very dreamscape esquí. I just think that Claire is nice but unfortunately is a distraction AND a reminder of his past and fucked up family. But we’ll see what direction the show runners take it. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Samke Dladla

Claire sucks as a character though. You know those videos parodying the love interest in indie movies? That's what Claire feels like.

WAFFLETITS

Damn can people in the comments not hate on Sheera for 5 seconds????

Samke Dladla

Which is funny because didn't Lupa think they were actually together at the beginning of the season lol.

Anonymous

ik the exact tiktok person ur prolly referring to lol those vids r so cringe but I think she only feels like that because the show puts such a strong emphasis on the kitchen and the business that we aren't given time to explore anybody's outside lives extensively. Claire could have a lot of depth as a character but the show is strictly focusing on The Bear business. Like how much do we know about Pete? He's been there since S1. Or Stevie? Or Tiffany? Or Syd's dad? Or Marcus' grandmom? They only give us a glimpse into the restaurant workers lives but they don't really develop these outside characters because the show is always about the business.

Samke Dladla

I just figured that Cicero's money was paying for it but at some point I did try to see if her clothes change becauss how is she eating all that food unless she was taking one bite of everything.

Coco

Roshi is right imo, also take into account that Carmy started calming down from his panic attack when he started thinking of Syd. He tried calming himself by thinking of Claire but it just didnt work.

Sophia

Right! it’s so annoying, she jumps through hurdles, just to misunderstand her.

kelly

It's actually so crazy that you mention Peggy and Don as I'm on my first rewatch of Mad Men in almost 10 years (currently on season 6) and I was just telling someone that Syd and Carmy remind me ALOT of Peggy and Don. Really great observation and you're not alone in thinking that way. I also wouldn't mind if they got together, but we so rarely see men and women portrayed in media as real platonic friends who also have a very close and intimate bond/connection. I'd love if they kept it that way as well.

Robert

People will ship who they want to ship, but I dunno why people think Syd would want to be with Carmy romantically given how she’s been treated in their personal relationship. He has yelled at her during times of stress. Bailed on her when they’ve made plans. He’s dropped a bunch of responsibility on her in both seasons without proper support. That’s all red flags for a relationship IMO.

Samke Dladla

Not the essays in the comments on why people don't like Sydney and Carmy as a couple lol

Nareenio

Clair just feels very not real, like something to good to be true and honestly I don't think they deserve each other. Clair is too god for Carmy and Carmy is too much for Clair, trust me when one little thing goes south and Carmy blows up like his mother, who's going to take the brunt of that? Clair, I like sydcarm because Sydney obviously likes Carmy and doesn't like Marcus like that. I bet if Carmy asked her to come over and try some of his food she'd jump straight to it. Even the cinematography of Clairs parts felt unreal or almost scenic even. The use of color and effects definitely help to get the romantic im so in love with her across.

Anna Anthony

I don't dislike Claire. Like she truly hasn't done anything wrong. But Carmy be making the fear of failure freeze him. And she happens to be a trigger for him, cause he don't wanna fail with her. Love Carmy and Syd chatting. Don't love Marcus and Syd getting awkward. Love Natalie. Can't wait for the next react! #finale

DTGstl314

The Cubs wanted him to throw out a first pitch during the 2016 World Series, but he turned down the offer because he said he didn't want to be in the spotlight or be a distraction from the accomplishments of the team. And yes, the Cubs owners did invite him to Wrigley Field for a private tour of the stadium the summer after they won the WS, and they concluded the tour by giving him an official World Series ring with his name engraved on it. There's an entire Wikipedia page on the incident... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bartman_incident

Anna Anthony

I agree with you in that I don't like that character trope either. BUT I'd also argue that's the point. Like maybe they're contrasting to show how different life is for Carmy in her presence. She's got chaos in her day too but look how much "indie cool girl" energy she has. He needs some of that zen lol

DTGstl314

Carmy, Mikey, and Nat all call each other Bear - it's just a play on their last name, Berzatto, pronounced "bear-zaa-tow". Their cousin Michelle (the one who lives in NYC played by Sarah Paulson) gave a whole story during the Christmas gathering about how people associate their last name with bears.

Devin B

@Henoch when I first watched Ted Lasso I thought there was a possibility that they would make Ted and Rebecca get together but I was glad they didn't go that route because they were better off supporting each other as friends

Anonymous

They all call each other bear

Jerry Noble

I think although the bond between syd and carm isn’t romantical. They both are in love with cooking and are extremely passionate of food. the conversation alone is like acknowledgment of that love?

Delinda Arts

I dont think they know that Syd's dad is played by THEE Robert Townsend lol

EJ Katt

I ship Sydney and Carmey. Sydney knew who he was before they met, so I think it’s possible Sydney may have a softspot for him. They both know the hardships of being a Chef, and really, without Sydney, Carm would not have gotten their business where it’s at now. I think Carm will break up with Claire, and maybe by end of series and/or future season(s), Carm will end up with Sydney.

hyakimaru dono (edited)

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2024-02-10 02:23:12 There is tension but Syd deffo doesn't like carry yet
2024-02-08 06:37:05 There is tension but Syd deffo doesn't like carmy yet

There is tension but Syd deffo doesn't like carmy yet

NovaVortex

Roshi like, "y'all don't feel them vibes!?" Lol

Hollow

Eggs with SC&O chips is bussin. The texture is a nice contrast at first but potato chips soften in your mouth so you ain't gonna get cut up. 100% I'm making exactly that combo tomorrow.

Jazko

Rewatch the show gang. Claire and Marcus want a relationship while Carmy and Syd want a good restaurant. We have seen the latter bond several times. Syd puts her faith in Carmy (even though he will probably explode soon) and Carmy feels calm when Syd is working with him.

Jazko

‘Not together but he sensed the vibes too

Champion Bescos

Much love y’all. Glad I’m not the only looking at this from a different angle. Not a writer yet, Edboy. Maybe one day, but just an average guy for now. Great point, Henoch. Everyone from that troubled background subconsciously gravitated to those who were mentally healthy and emotionally grounded and supportive. Carmy needs the same, but he won’t allow himself to have it anytime soon it seems.

Paulothy

That table scene reminds me of Percy and Annabeth taking turns holding up the sky for Atlas

Paulothy

These Tina scenes fill my chest with pure warmth, she might actually be my favorite character now. I hated her when she was first introduced, the development is crazy

n9ruto

I'd have to disagree, I'm not even a fan of syd/carm but a relationship built over the course of a few seasons will always be better than a one-dimensional manic pixie girl one. If Claire had been introduced earlier or if they hadn't gotten together in the same season she was introduced in so it could give her enough time to flesh out her character then I wouldn't mind them together.

n9ruto

I agree with most of what you said in the sense that those are reasons I can't get behind her character. Sydney aside, because I don't ship her with Carmy anyway, there's no pull to Claire. "She's good for Carm" that's great but what does she do outside of being good for Carm and listening to him? For a show that relies on its characters and their motivations, Claire, the one-dimensional pixie dream girl, feels out of place. And I can't even blame it on her just being introduced because Carm's entire family, from the one episode they were in, had more personality than she did. I personally think Carmy does need someone who works in a different field as a contrast to his work environment but Claire is the equivalent of the 'Black Sidekick' Trope (Obviously she isn't black, but the trope is a character with no personality other than being the black best friend and giving npc dialogue here and there, in this case as his girlfriend and repackaging what everyone else has told him but in her love interest speak). Pushing the dead personality critiques aside, another main reason people dislike Claire is because of what her character has hindered. Besides the fact she and Carmy started dating when he really wasn't in the right mindset to, most of the audience is here to see the restaurant succeed and after that speech Carm gave to Syd about cutting distractions and how The Bear needed to come first, it makes him seem like an even bigger hypocrite.

Jayne

I get Roshi , definitelyyyyy felt the Sydney and Carmy vibes in that table scene lol

KayWhereYouAt

I feel like carm uses Claire as a anchor or a exist door to his personal life ima good way cause it just tunes out all that stress at work and personal issue he thinks about. But he didn’t get that feeling for so long and doesn’t want to mess it up so that’s y he goes overboard as in to just tune out work mostly

Clinton Vance

I remember watching the Cubs game Cicero was talking about—my late dad was a cubs fan and I’d watch games with him—he was beyond upset. I was upset too, just not as much as him. And I know neither of us remembered the actual fuck up.

Cn Ngb

Sheera needs to give the same level of grace she gives to other characters to Sydney fr. It's getting annoying how she always assume the worst.

EmoBurrito

All they need is Keith Lee to pull up and give a good review of the place now

Jill I

no, you're not wrong. It was so intense and it would be naive to ignore that that scene, at least, had something deeper.

Cinmnapple

Roshi is def not alone in feeling the romantic vibes. the way that scene was lit and had them sort of isolated in warm lighting amidst the colder lighting of the more anxiety ridden scenes it’s hard not to feel like something more than friendship is happening. As for Claire/Carmy part of why I think it doesn’t work for many viewers is bc Claire’s not fleshed out like the other characters. she comes across as a plot device since she just exists to be Carly’s gf w no real inner conflict or motives outside of that

Cinmnapple

Also ntm on Sydney for last eps spat! She wasn’t even going to say anything until Carmy pushed her too so no wonder it came out wrong. Plus considering how he’s been slacking on communication no wonder she thinks it’s odd he’s having convos w his gf abt it when he won’t even talk to his business partner. Still glad they worked it out.

Cinmnapple

Idk I’d argue those most of those secondary characters are better fleshed out and they’ve had far less screen time bc we understand their conflicts and motivations more. Pete is trying to find a place in this chaotic family and support his grieving wife. Syds dad is a single father trying to protect his daughter from disappointment. Tiffany is rebuilding her life after her divorce and navigating co parenting. Even the guest stars (Olivia Coleman and Will Poulter) we understood why they do what they do. Claire… is in love w Carmy lol and apparently a doctor but we hear v little abt that

andrew ayala

AHH Another scene where marcus acts Hyper Retarded (not the last im sure)... Let me be really selfish and stress out syd right before the big opening night that would make or break her future career... and then when she doesnt respond well.. make a pouty childs face after she responded to you like an adult.... marcus is if u take big dude from THE BLINSIDE and combine him with Ed from ED, EDD, n EDDY.

Kreative

I feel like all the siblings called each other Bear

Anonymous

The way you guys are so against syd/carmy like that man doesn't have edits of sydney playing in his mind at all times lol

KeYo

Don't they call each other bear? Like a play on to their last name? They called Micheal and carm bear lol. Roshi is lost 😂

Shamya Mckoy

Next ep CHEFS KISS

Brobi-Wan Kenobi

Ngl the arguing about SydCarmy is a little funny to me because the writers and actors have already addressed this a few times saying that there is no romance between them and that there won't be in the future. Like I get why people ship them but their relationship is very much being written as platonic. I think some people are just so used to seeing any kind of intimate relationship between a man and woman turn into romance that it's hard to shift gears out of that thought process.

J Man

Is that the same fridge that they were arguing about multiple times earlier in the season?

Antuan

You must have 0 comprehension skills if that’s what you took from that interaction, first off no one goes in to asking someone out with the thought that it is gonna stress them out. He was happy decided to shoot his shot and they both are awkward and so the result was awkward. Quit overthinking it and being a douche when he’s literally making masterpiece dishes. ignorant take 🙄

212

she never will. she always argues for argues sake

Anonymous

I heard Lupa drop that "WOW!" from when Gojo fed Miguel the hands. No Michelin.

Anonymous

I think they’re definitely building towards a carmy and syd romantic arc. especially with the table scene and the scene where carmy is having a full panic attack and the only thing that starts to calm him down is thinking of syd. and i feel like it was juxtaposed with the flashes of claire right before it

Anonymous

im also heavily biased and am aware of what the actors feel about their relationship. nonetheless i have hope

Uly A O

Definitely agree. Always thought of Claire as a reminder to Carmy there is more to life, but unfortunately The Bear is and has to be Camry’s life and the more.

PetersThimble

to be honest dude, i wouldn't trust what showwriters say considering often they just say anything to get ppl off the trail of the real stuff and or change their minds when it suits them 🤷🏾‍♀️

Jaeboleann

Facts he do be on sum dumbass shit know it was so clearly not the fucking time for that

Akila Yaw

1000% percent agree with people in the comments. I just ship them, I do think in his state now ,that It wouldn’t make sense for his character. But I just ship them loll. The actors just have chemistry,so in a scene that is meant to be taken in a friend-ship bonding way, is gonna be taken by some people in a romantic build up way. But I do feel like carmy doesn’t want a relationship right now or need one. Saying that, who knows where the story might go in future seasons🤷🏽‍♀️

glass

damn didn't know the Bear season 3 was out 😳

Dee

I'm pretty sure it was used by Richie in the first season. It's listed on the wiki too, so I'm not the only one that heard it.

Xander

I don’t think she likes Marcus

ViralCorgi

I don't think the relationship with Claire was ever meant to be a lasting subplot. If anything it was meant to highlight what was asked to Carm in the beginning -- does he love this? This entire experience of restaurant ownership was something thrust upon him after of Michael's death. And he's largely committed himself to it as a way to process the loss. While the others were driven more so by passion and self discovery, he's been primarily driven by trauma. Now that he has an opportunity to experience something healthier we get to finally see the answer on if he honestly loves the restaurant, or if he was just using it as an escape because he had no other options.

Fritz

Are there not essays going the complete opposite direction too? lmao. Both sides are pumping out essays defending their ship. We'll just have to wait and see what season 3 has in store.

Dee

Episode 8 of season 1. While talking to Carm, Richie says, "He was Mikey Bear. Y'know?"

Mollywopper

I don't know if its ppl not thinking an intimate relationship can be platonic so much as syds reaction every time carmy mentions claire. Like every time he brings her up she makes a face or says something smart. To most ppl she'd have no reason to react like that unless she was jealous. For the record I never thought they would end up together but I see why ppl would.

Anonymous

I think Syd makes those faces because it shows how distracted he is. The first time she found out about Clair, she found out that was the reason he canceled on her, his first distraction from the what their main focus should be, the restaurant. And he continues to be distracted and dropping the balls on alot of things. While everyone has stepped up, Carmy is the one that's unfocused and scattered. Syd never blamed Clair. It's Carmy that's making decisions and changes without informing his partner, not for permission but input and notification.