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CentrisAce

I know it's been four months, but I have to say. The evil ass caster from Fate/zero was summoned before Mainyu cursed the Grial. So being "heroic" means nothing as Iskandar said, "Being a hero means being a tyrant",

Angelo Marchantt

Just to clarify here mainyu was summoned way before the grial ear of fate zero. The grial of fate zero was already corrupted from the third grial war. During the third grial war the einzber family fucked up and ended up causing the grial to be corrupted both for the fourth war (fate zero) and the fith (stay night). Previous to the summon of mainyu during the third war no evil heroes had been summoned even tho the first 2 wars were not really proper wars but a whole lot of lore to unpack. Tldr mainyu s in fact before fate zero

Adamantite Momon (edited)

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2023-11-18 00:33:08 But the grail in Apocrypha did summon Vlad, Frankenstein and Jack the ripper
2023-11-18 00:33:08 But the grail in Apocrypha did summon Vlad, Frankenstein and Jack the ripper
2023-11-18 00:33:08 But the grail in Apocrypha did summon Vlad, Frankenstein and Jack the ripper
2023-07-20 12:51:06 But the grail in Apocrypha did summon Vlad, Frankenstein and Jack the ripper

But the grail in Apocrypha did summon Vlad, Frankenstein and Jack the ripper

Bona Fide

Just in time!!

BZD

Please sure may I have another?

Caliburns

Shirou is an idiot. I dont like or dislike Kiritsugu, but Shirou should have learned a thing or two from him :/

Dilyn Howard

@Caliburns blame the adaptation for the anime he isn’t an idiot the anime just does give a good impression of his character if you want a shirou that you can understand play the visual novel of this anime but don’t bash him if you don’t like him that’s fine but don’t call him an idiot look at his character videos to understand what I mean here is the link so watch it. just a heads up if you are watching these reactions with them and haven’t watch the mason serie ahead of them then wait until they have finished the series then watch this video link because it has major spoilers in it ( https://youtu.be/tbv_040Uj1Y )

BZD

The most interesting thing that I took away from this was that Shirou doesn’t really laugh or seem happy. I do like that Shirou was also able to block and react to a lot of that servants attacks.

Jazko

Cringe. How is it his fault. Just until recently he didn't even know what the Grail War was

kap007 (edited)

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2021-07-22 01:56:42 It's harder to show in the anime vs the game but massive Survivor's Guilt & PTSD
2021-07-12 22:12:12 It's harder to show in the anime vs the game but massive Survivor's Guilt & PTSD

It's harder to show in the anime vs the game but massive Survivor's Guilt & PTSD

Homura

Quick little thing, in the game Shirou(the player) has the option to give into Rin's demand and give up during the fight when she gives Shirou the option, if you choose to give up Rin takes away Shirou's memories of the Holy Grail war and his commands spells, which proves that she was wavering in her intention to kill him. Edit: read the reply to this comment too!

BZD

Yeah I know. I’m trying to highlight things in the comments without being too spoilery. UBW is my favorite anime, and I’m a huge fan of the franchise and F/SN specifically.

BZD

Did you know that Shirou has the same voice actor as Sasuke.

Homura

That take is a fault of the adaptation and not Shirou, Shirou is no idiot in the game, especially since you're privy to his thoughts at all times, whereas in the anime you don't hear his inner dialogue much.

None None

It also had a bunch of options where you had to choose how to avoid Rin's bullets, and Shirou would just get straight-up murdered if you picked wrong. So she was absolutely shooting to kill.

BZD

I know this. I was just trying to point things out while being vague. As they haven’t found out who is the master, and they don’t even know what class the servant is, maybe consider editing you comment to be less spoilery, sometimes people accidentally click on read more and may get spoiled by your comment.

Thamor

Everyone always wrong on the surprise servant in this episode =)

Jigga Man

4:04 this dude a fool 😂😂

ElasticMemories

2:00 Kiritsugu actually passed away that moment in the original visual novel lol them calls are on point

Corey Pearson

I take it back lmao Lupa don't be reading these damn comments. I don't know how many times we gone say Kiritsugu is not responsible for Shirou place being burned. That was Kirei's wish that destroyed the city. If you see this Roshi, please inform your bro so he can stop looking like a fool every time he mentions it. Every episode he keeps saying it and gets clapped by people in the comments about it. They stated this in the fate/zero finale that it was Kirei's wish, not Kiritsugu doing.

Nickevans21

People are allowed to not like Shirou lol. They're watching the anime and not playing the game. And they don't like him. The person in the game and in the anime are not the same person so they can say they think he's an idiot

JsnSkg

Remember guys, Rin is a tsundere, so she ofc she has tsundere tendencies. I mean, that should've been obvious a long time ago lol.

Dune

The funny thing is I thought they all already knew this?

JsnSkg

Ah yes, here arrives my favorite Servant, "Thiccer."

JsnSkg

I agree with Roshi, it's been HELLA obvious this whole time that Kiritsugu's dead. All it takes is putting two and two together.

JsnSkg

I mean, he's new at this. Ofc he'd be ignorant of how this whole thing works. Something tells me you actually have never heard of character development. I highly recommend you google it. It'll change your whole narrow-minded world.

Yanpo

I think that piece of information is supposed to be unclear in the anime up to this point. Kirei certainly believes that his wish was granted, but that was just him guessing since he didn't actively make any wishes and just assumed that the Grail granted him his innermost desires as a way to show him who he really is.

Corey Pearson

It’s not really unclear lol they don’t really go back over this detail during ubw route. More details about the grail is discussed but not the exact details about the last war results. I just know that each episode, the comment section gets on Lupa about his statement and I’m just trying to prevent it from being an ongoing thing before Lupa gets a little sensitive about being clapped in the comments over something lol

Danny

i dont think it was kirei's wish per se. I think the corruption of the Grail is what caused it. And definitely bcuz emiya tried to destroy it as well probably got it pissed af. kirei just mistaken it for his wish since gil told him they were the only ones remaining so that disaster has to be what kirei wished for. at least thats my take on it.

kuroihana

Assassin? Nah that's Ass-waifu

KimKaiRen

So many of these masters are dumb as hell. It's so frustrating to watch. Tohsaka is going full tsundere, and Shirou is just oblivious to everything. Why do they all have to be high schoolers

WikedTraviler

If you watched the episode you would see that Shirou said he tried to learn as much as he could from Kiritsugu, but Kiritsugu would not teach him anything besides the fortifying magic before he died. It's obvious Kiritsugu never wanted to teach Shirou magic so that he never turned out like himself or had to take part in a grail war.

Medunuuu

@Don honestly, non of that matters. The point is, lupa is putting all the blame on Kiritsugu

Corey Pearson

@Don. What I’m stating is what goes with what actually happened lol What I stated wasn’t my take on it but the actual information given and articles that explain it the exact same way. Kirei was the runner up and therefore his wish got granted which was the destruction of humanity but since the grail was incomplete, the destruction only happened in the city. Kiritsugu did piss it off for sure when it denied the grail lol so to manifest itself it chose Kirei as the runner up. So the destruction is still on Kirei

None None

Blame the fact that F/SN is like an 80 hour long game and about 75% of it is just Shirou having internal monologues that don't translate to anime well. Shirou doesn't come off nearly as dumb when you get that much insight into how his thought process works. He's not dumb, he just has the personality of a 70 year old man who knows he doesn't have much time left, so he's content to just give a hard day's work, go home to his "wife", read the newspaper, and intentionally tries not to overthink things. (except when something triggers his hero complex) Plus constant PTSD flashbacks of fire whenever he's not keeping his mind busy, and all of the other weird mental issues he has because of it. He's a fascinating character who just doesn't really work well in anime form.

Raikiri29

Thank you. I'm tired to read people call him an idiot or hate him when they don't even understand him and prefer Kiritsugu because he is too dark and edgy

EJB

They shooting 0% from the field with these predictions

Most Sane Oreimo Fan

That servant chick, I’ll say it now without giving too much information about her. I want her to step on me. You’ll get the reason why once you started on the movies.

Most Sane Oreimo Fan

I agree with None None. Shirou is really hard to translate into anime since his character is mostly internal monologues. In addition to that, there’s a lot of anime MC that gets this treatment because they are too hard to translate into anime and people tend to like the edgy character of the same universe. Another victim of this is Kamijou Touma from Toaru series because like Shirou, they are mostly into internal monologues because they were both created without an anime adaptation in mind and just simply written as a whole character for a novel or I the FSN case, visual novel.

Arc

Kiritsugu: I only need to two spells, one's called Uzi and the other one is AK-47

JsnSkg

I mean, for anybody who actually watched the last couple episodes of Fate/Zero, it should be clear lmao. Especially that conversation between Gilgamesh and Kirei. Like, it's not hard, it's not rocket science. It's just reading subtitles and using a small portion of your brain.

JsnSkg

It helps they're going into it 100% blind. I had seen a few episodes of the original FSN anime a while ago.... and rule 34. XD

Medunuuu

Kiritsugu being dead was most definitely obvious

Waka Flocka Flame

I hope yall know that Rin is a tsundere, I thought yall would pick up on that

Zonalsteve

They are already watching to your eternity

WAY

They're currently watching it on their Friday slot. they have the first 2 episodes up.

Yanpo

That conversation was them throwing out guesses about an object they had very little understanding of at the time. Even if their guesses were correct, neither of them are credible sources.

Tye

ready to see more of this. loving it so far!

Corey Pearson

@Yanpo I misread your message originally lol. I get what you are referring to now which is the convo between gigalmesh and Kirei. Although the convo was worded a certain way, the writers intentionally gave that information as insight for us. That is what makes it credible. They just explain more about the grail in Ubw which allows people to understand the why. I never once viewed it as a guess from them because the information was straight forward.

YaBoyLoshi

Roshi could you solo react to the wano arc 👉🏾👈🏾

Centric

Fun fact saber is only 5’1 and 95 pounds

ElasticMemories

Kirei happened to interpret it as his "wish", but it was just the Grail having a failed climax upon being destroyed without releasing the pent up energy it gathered over the last 60 years. Go look at typemoon fandom wiki, Fuyuki Holy Grail War -> Fate/stay night world -> 4th Holy Grail War which cites the original source material

Corey Pearson

@elasticmemories wiki is not actually the original source considering anyone can Edit that material based on their description of what they believed happened. Plus I read that information already and it doesn’t necessarily deny that it wasn’t apart of his wish. But I do get what you’re saying for sure. Even that information doesn’t put blame on Kiritsugu which is the main point I was trying to make.

JsnSkg

If my calculations are correct, YBR won't be finishing UBW until the end of September. Then hopefully October we'll get the Heaven's Feel movies, right in time for more ufotable with Demon Slayer S2. I mean, they can't not watch them, right? The demand for them is gonna be sooooo high by the time they finish, if not already. Plus they center around their favorite "zombie." XD

yaboyroshi

you know what, I was actually gonna do that an ask if yall were interested

BZD

Yeah, but what about with her armor on.

BZD

I believe that they plan to watch the HF movies.

Drake Rage

Fucking Lupa was about to talk shit about Kiritsugu even in this episode, but the opening cut him off, then at the end he had to throw some shade when Tosaka said Shirou's Dad put being a Dad first, and did not burden his son as a Mage would have done.

Angelo Marchantt

I know this is from like a whole year ago, but for new people that may not know about the Fate universe, what they mentioned about the servants being evil in the case of this two examples of casters, They are 100% evil, the reason they can be summoned is because the grial is corrupted by angra mainyu. The show sort of mentions it during the end of Fate Zero, but the grial they are fighting for got corrupted during the third grial war (the one before zero) and it was actually the einzber family's fault.