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Frieren Ep 27 (Patreon)

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Sad theres only one episode left

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bleach

Bro I don't want this season to end yet

illmindedsoul

When I watched this episode I thought my crunchy roll was bugging cause I saw that old man and thought I was continuing the episode he first showed up in talking about 'I have nothing left to teach you' lol

Hasnain Khan

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Polygon

Frieren's unsuppressed mana being equal to Serie's SUPPRESSED mana is crazy. Frieren is depicted as a god amongst the human mages, but Serie is a god to Frieren. Series says this episode that Frieren relatively unskilled for an elf her age since she spent centuries just bumming around in the woods not doing anything until Himmel recruited her. Serie is so powerful that Frieren states that she can't even envision beating Serie, let alone fighting against her to begin with. She's arguably the only character that could have gone 1v1 with the Demon King, but chose not to because she's a warmonger. Really puts into perspective how ancient she is, that Richter even called her a demigod, and the being closest to the Goddess in the modern age. "I am a Great Mage from the Mythical Era which existed so long ago that you Demons have completely forgotten such fear."

Erd'na

Sad thing about this series is probably gonna go thru what AOT did. Super popular and barely has any material for a season 2. We'll have yo wait for the manga to get farther from the anime before we could see a season 2.

Tokyo GxS

I hope MADHOUSE doesn't drop this anime, its too good

awwtysm
>>132727558

There is enough material for season 2. They can adapt up to the most recently finished arc.

VaelArche
>>132727558

Nah. This season only goes to Chapter 60, and there's 140 some odd chapters. There's plenty of material, it's just up to madhouse at this point.

Wrëck

You know at some point in this anime I'd like to see this flashback of the demon king fight. Also I didn't take what serie said as confirming he could beat frieren currently. I took it as you still have a long way to go to best her and by the time you reach that level it would be too late because he's old already at that point it wouldn't matter. idk just my perspective if you understood it better lmk.

awwtysm

I really hope they adapt a second season because the next two major arcs are the best arcs in the story. Also you’ll get to learn more about denken like you wanted if they adapt more

CornCobBob

I think Denken was going around the store picking things that contained info that would help Richter get stronger as a mage. I dunno, it just seems like the kind of roundabout way that someone like Denken would do out of concern for Richter.

CRuEL_WOrlD

If Frieren tried to f around and find out she woulda died on the spot😂😭

baja

Its good that she failed most of them. If northern territory demon are getting active and there is monsters comparable to the one in the dungeon just running about, they would all die like a mf. The ones that serie failed were trash. One with the mustach was not a combat mage, The first girl can only use water and is a coward. The girl with the purple chinese robe only know the speed spell. The boy with the metals flower pettals is shit at mana detection. The other girl fern beat got overwhelmed with basic attacks. Trash

Byron Wright

You can see it can't your Fern. Her cursed technique...

Coatl45
>>132728434

Plus, if Denken had come out and explained what he was doing, Richter would’ve refused on principle.

Fadel Akbar

Nah, I still believe this will get Season 2. Actually, there is nothing to worry about Madhouse, despite their track record of not continuing the next season. The bigger role in how an IP will get the next season is the distributor, and Toho Animation pretty much always gives their anime another season. Just look at JJK, Haikyuu, Mushoku Tensei, Spy x Family, Dr. Stone, BNHA, Psycho-Pass, etc

King of New York

Fern is the secret MC of the show I swear💀. The subtle parts of the show are so well done. The fact that Serie's suppressed mana = Frieren's real mana is insane. My question is if Serie's way older than Frieren and she still looks like a child, then how old is Kraft since he looks like an actual grown-ass man?

CRuEL_WOrlD

Dont underestimate Serie LOL she prob stronger than the Demon King too😂

Gene Ryan

In a round about way it was the flower field spell that killed the demon king then. It brought together the party of Heroes that defeated him. Goated spell.

Joshua Burns

I’d advise y’all not to downplay Serie

Coatl45

Serie is a total tsundere. She hates training humans, but she perfectly remembers every detail about who all her apprentices were and how they acted. Plus, the moment a talented human shows up, she immediately offers an apprenticeship, despite how annoying their short lifespans are. And she views Frieren as her hippy granddaughter who refuses to join her corporate empire to run a small business, and consequently not living up to her potential. So that talk those two had was basically a grandmother lecturing her granddaughter about not making the most of what she was given.

Erica Collins

Idk what it is about Serie but I like her energy a lot. She's like, "oh you're scared of me?" Fail. "Your favorite spell is the one that makes a field of flowers?" That's lame af. Fail. lol I like that she’s about the smoke and I hope that somehow Ubel does become her student

Tyler

One thing you'll notice about Serie is that she gives off a tough and uncaring exterior while often times acting in an opposite way. She said she only taught Flamme on a whim and disagreed with her ambitions to spread magic to humans but still remembered her time with her and even 1000 years later is still helping humans grow with this new association. In a way, humanity's magic started with Serie. I think Flamme had a significant impact on her life in a similar way Fern has impacted Frieren.

Kalas Wing

Sad that there's only one episode left Glad that I got to experience this amazing ride!

Pan Cakes

oh nahhh, her suppressed mana is at the same level of frienens un suppressed mana. serie is something else

Panda
>>132728982

This seems like cope. Madhouse still has to do all the work prior to distribution. Shit we can't even get more ippo or diamond no ace seasons and those have been heat for years. I honestly don't think it's not gonna happen, but i doubt it will be anytime in the next few years.

Le_Lng

Thanks for the drop. So Serie stated Frieren was relatively unskilled for her age since she only really focused on one technique (mana suppression) . She's sees her as wasted potential. And the suppression bit, that was mentioned tells us that Serie's suppressed mana is equivalent to Frieren's fully released mana.

Fuji

serie is such a tsundere talkin about the flower spell is trash in a field of flowers she probably made using the spell

Alexander Szabo
>>132728288

Don’t count on it. They might, because they do show flashbacks here and there, but it’s just not important at all to show it.

LiquidXGravity

What about Denken did he pass?

Fadel Akbar
>>132730700

dunno, we still have denken, ubel, wirbel, methode, and land for the next interview

Hello
>>132727273

What's really crazy is that serie has all that and still goes on to tell fern she could elevate her to heights no other mage has reached. Not human mage, NO OTHER MAGE. Fern's potential must be immense.

Hello

Ngl I really wanna see the warrior or hero equivalent to serie. Like an unrivaled warrior who decided to lay low and not fight the demon king. We know eisen was a beast but I wanna see the peak of that. Especially since we have a peak for fern so it only makes sense to have one for stark imo. I wanna see more of the verse's peak.

Darion Dixon

Crazy thing is as strong as Frieren is she's actually thrash. Old dude said she's on equal footing with Serie but that's cuz no one else saw through her mana suppression so Serie suppressed is Frieren at full power. Serie even said she's relatively unskilled for her age. If it was Fern living that long she'd be a PROBLEM

ThunderousMacabre

Why everyone strong gotta be a problem 😂

Sonic

with Sheera on figuring out dog years for elves, elf years

Godrick

LOL talkin about "a 50 year old toddler is craaazy" literally Baby Yoda (60 somethin years old)

Erd'na
>>132727558

140? There is like 127 chapters at the moment. There is one good arc. Where do you intend to end the season that would make sense? At the end of that good arc. Sure it's gonna take some years to anime a season. But the way the manga release their chapters. There won't be plenty of material. You can forced it into a 2nd season but after that?

Alice
>>132729567

Another thing to consider about Serie is that she didn't want all those humans to die. She would rather fail them than to just be heartless and massacre them all in a test. It was a mercy and in my mind compassion for the human mages. She didn't have to do that. Her test was multi-purposed. It adds layers to her and I loved trying to figure out her motivations. Also, I 100% agree with your views on her impact.

DocGreen
>>132727558

A season 2 is gonna be 2 years out minimum. There will enough material for a season 4 by than if their are no long hiatuses. The major season 3 arc just started and we had a smaller arc before that which will also be season 3

Devin B

I can honestly see Ubel passing this test no problem since she doesn't get frighten easily, Serie is probably going to say something like her imagination is twisted

Lamine
>>132731498

Kraft hasn't really done a whole lot in the series, feat-wise. But I assume there's a lot more he can do considering all the time he's had to gain strength and experience.

DocGreen

Like sheera said elves take way longer to process things. So serie is still grieving over flames death and speaks so nonchalanty about her. She was her favourite pupil and she sees that in fern as well

godUsoland

I love how Fern couldn't say that Frieren was her teacher to Richter because she was so angry with her, but after seeing how thoughtful and caring Frieren is, she proudly stated "I am Ms. Frieren's Student" to Serie, even if it meant she might not pass the exam.

Mad4Life

For Serie's sake she better pass Denken or she's getting a straight uppercut from this nigga.

Darion Belt
>>132731498

I think they haven't mentioned it yet, but there is one. Can't wait until we hear more from them.

Paden Snell
>>132727826

I know madhouse doesn't have a great record for doing second seasons, but this anime was a smash hit, and upcoming arcs are all fire. They'd be idiots not to do it

Polygon
>>132731498

The show has already mentioned that Kraft has already saved the world in the past, so long ago that no one even remembers who he and his companion are anymore. As for future characters, there will be a few other warriors and heroes who are introduced who are powerful enough to defeat Demons in the tier of the Seven Sages of Destruction, but there's still no one in the same tier as Serie yet.

Polygon
>>132727273

That's kinda just Serie trying to poach Fern lol, she gives the same spiel to every student she's had. Fern has talent and does have a ton of potential though, but she's still ultimately a human limited by her lifespan like Flamme and Lernen. She's done nothing yet to suggest she'd ever reach the heights of Serie or the Demon King. Atm in the manga she's still low-tier First Class Mage. Will have to wait for more chapters though, who knows.

Gilthwixt
>>132728288

At the rate we're going, if we ever see the Demon King fight it'll be the end of the series as the final flashback.

JsnSkg
>>132733399

From who? Who's gonna uppercut Serie, who's more powerful than Frieren?

illmindedsoul

You never know Frieren might age like Yoda's race in Star Wars because isn't Grogu like 50 but he's still a toddler or something… I can't remember his age off the top my head but I'm pretty sure their ageing works like that so that would be wild if it's the same for the elves in this world.

illmindedsoul
>>132735210

The only difference here is that physically the elves do not look like toddlers unlike yoda's race who do at that age

bblala

Wait, Fern realized the fluctuations in Serie's mana, does that mean that she is concealing her mana even though it already looks insanely massive to everyone?

Thiivi
>>132733227

I didn't even realize that's why she didn't respond to Richter!

JsnSkg
>>132728751

Idk about "trash" as much as just don't make the cut as first class. Not being first class is not equivalent to being trash. News flash, there's more than just top tier and bottom tier. It's like looking at percentages, but saying only 1% and 100% exist, and completely ignoring 2% - 99%.

Killjoy
>>132727558

there's enough material to fully animate season 2 right now anyways, plus its going to take a few years for season 2 to even come out, meaning the author with have written nearly another 80-100 chapters by then

Skebaba
>>132727273

And then there's the Goddess who would assblast Serie's stats izi

Killjoy

So with Lernen the first, first class mage, i believe the reason serie said she shouldn't take on human students is mainly because of their life span. In his short life span he reached a level to be comparable to frieren and yet he doesn't have much life left to live so to serie it just seems like a waste of time since she's lived for centuries

Mad4Life
>>132735752

Pretty much. The old guy noticed Frieren was suppressing her mana and thought Frieren's actual mana was equal to Serie's not noticing that Serie's mana was also suppressed. So Frieren's unsuppressed mana is around the equivalent to Serie suppressing her mana.

JsnSkg

I wouldn't say Frieren and Serie got "beef." It's a bit more complicated than that.

Giyuu

Nah Frieren failed for fucking off and not being as strong as she’s supposed to be at her age cause she’s too focused on suppressing her mana and collecting random spells 😂

Nico
>>132735752

You are correct. Serie is far older than frieren and mana is correlated to age in the world which makes her mana probably the biggest in the world and she's very likely to be the single strongest mage in history.

Argo2Unitard
>>132736962

Wym? She helped kill the Demon King, literally the strongest person around for thousands of years.

pmreez
>>132736962

Yeah amongst like 95% of the world she’s like the strongest, but even Serie said she technically should be stronger, but Frieren didn’t push her training besides her mana suppression and what Flamme asked of her for hundreds of years until Himel and and party asked her to join them on their quest

Polygon
>>132736962

@Argo Serie mentioned this episode that Frieren is unskilled for how old she is as a mage. That should put into perspective how powerful Serie is, and how powerful she expected Frieren to be. To humans, Frieren is god-tier, but Serie is like a god to Frieren. She's so powerful that her suppressed mana is equal to Frieren's unsuppresed mana. The reason she seems so annoyed with Frieren is because she believes mages should be constantly growing and honing their potential. Frieren spent centuries just chilling in the forest until Himmel recruited her.

pmreez
>>132731748

She ain’t trash lol. Second to who else rn besides Serie? Serie is disappointed in Frieren not cuz she’s weak but cuz if she didn’t chill and only really focus on mana suppression for hundreds of years then she would be stronger. Serie didn’t agree with Flamme’s ideal (or at least put on a hard exterior) but Frieren just did what her master told her. Don’t do anything or make a name for yourself until you kill the demon king

sim
>>132736962

And that doesnt mean she couldnt be much stronger.. they literally explained it in the episode.. she could be much stronger over 200 years of training over her training to surpress her mana

Shin splits
>>132736962

I don’t think serie calling frieren weak by any means she’s just saying she could have been much stronger then she is right

lyssa

Serie pulled the gladiator when she walked towed fern

Nardoc
>>132729427

Meh she's just a tsundere. She said human apprentices are pointless but when she was remembering Flamme it was as a child and she was holding her hand. I'm pretty sure she thought of her as like her daughter. Also she says the flower spell is useless while admiring the flowers in her garden probably thinking about her dead daughter Flamme :(

Nardoc
>>132736962

@pmreez 95%? Lol that would mean 5 out of every 100 people were stronger than Frieren. She's stronger than 99.9999999% more like

Darion Dixon
>>132731748

Not thrash like that. As you said she isn't nearly strong as she could be. As Serie was saying the old dude that was the first first-class mage could give her a run for her money but he's human. She's lived for 10 times as long and she also nerfed herself to get skills specifically for fighting demons. She's still probably top 10 strongest in the show but there are also probably less than 10 elf mages or even elves still alive.

Tay
>>132736962

but to series point she could be stronger and frieren herself has admitted to losing multiple times before. which probably annoys serie even more cause in her mind if frieren trained more that wouldnt happen

BZD

Now I’m wondering who’s older. Kraft the monk who is so old that people seem to have forgotten about the time he saved the world, and he even changed job classes in between. Or Serie.

JB3

The fact that Series suppressed mana is equal to Frieren's unsuppressed mana shows how goated she is.

These Plums

I just want to point out that the mana we saw on Serie had fluctuations which means it's being suppressed. Which her suppressed mana is equal to Frierens unsuppressed mana.

These Plums

Roshi channeled the Sheerangan this episode.

These Plums

This Anime/Manga doesn't really throw stuff in the audience's face, but this episode was pretty much confirmation on where Series and Frieren stand. But I believe, given enough time, Frieren would surpass Serie.

Passion

Frieren went oh you failing me, aight, who cares? Literally the definition of going with the flow.

These Plums
>>132727273

My theory: The Goddess is based off Serie. Frieren says, "A mere 10 years." Serie says, "A mere 1000 years." Serie is confirmed to be as old as Human civilization itself. Twice in the show/anime, we've seen imagery of the goddess when Serie is mentioned or on screen. So I theorize she's a goddess, but that's just a theory.

Mubarez Ahmad

I genuinely think Serie would fold Frieren as of now

JIMBO
>>132736662

no shit sherlock, has already been mentioned multiple times in the show. also don't mean any hate with no shit sherlock. its just a saying that i like.

Ebronics

Frieren aint bothered. she didn't what to do this test crap in the first place lol

Baam
>>132745528

Well yea most likely. We don’t even know how long Serie has been a mage for because it’s way before Flamme’s time. So Frierens time of being a mage might be very small compared to Series’. Unless Frieren has some broken spell no one knows about😂😂

Oliver

Serie is far superior to Frieren and would clap her. However while skill, mana and experience will carry you most of the way some mages just have a scissor to your paper it's about compatibility. However considering Frieren makes up for her lazy nature, that her mana control is so good few can exploit her weakness. I just see this as a WIN considering there is immense MORE potential for Frieren and if she gets a serious training arc she would only grow. Imagine Solo Leveling but Mc just stopped at level 50 and stayed there Thanks for the reaction it was great :)

illnamethechannellater653
>>132731498

We have the old man at the start of the episode 🤣🤣 ...kraft is probably the equivalent of serie as he already saved the world at some point now he chilling

Polygon
>>132745528

Serie has 1000s of years of training and experience on Frieren, it’s not even close. Frieren is god tier to the human mages, but Serie is a god to her lol. She mentions in the manga that she literally cannot envision fighting Serie, let alone beating her.

WuffleIron

I think the influence that Frieren had on Himmel when they first met, shouldn't be understated. Magic is primarily meant for combat and it was introduced that way to human society. In that instant, Frieren changed the perspective for Himmel, making magic beautiful for the first time, rather than something that is used by demons/humans to kill.

DatKid_Kaneki
>>132743022

knowing the fact that he knows also the old warriors, he might be from the same time as her? maybe a generation after? cause shes considered young compared to him

bark
>>132735752

Even crazier that she said Fern could reach heights no mage has reached before - she meant Fern could be stronger than her

SoggySoup
>>132743022

He does actively look older but that might be just cause he's the only male elf we've seen.

Kai Lee

Serie and Frieren are not on equal footing lol. Serie is to Frieren what Frieren is to Fern

Arc

You will get the Denken spin-off arc. This dude's backstory is crazy. And when you realize who taught him magic it's even more insane....

Norman kay10

this journey is about to end am not ready

Barry
>>132748344

She can never catch up to Serie while both are alive, especially since she doesn't have a drive for combat magic. The beauty of this show is that it doesn't matter that she can't, Frieren is a mage of a peaceful era.

Barry
>>132752023

Even more so I think, Fern is clearly a prodigy like Flamme, while Frieren has the advantage of a thousand years training arc. I wonder if Frieren is average for an Elf.

Barry
>>132744184

She would never want to do that, so she won't. Thats how I see it.

Barry
>>132733399

Shes probably never experienced biceps magic.

Arc
>>132744184

Frieren has a certain skill when it comes to magic, but that will be revealed with time. Basically Serie is the All-Knowing and Frieren can adapt to anything given enough time. Serie still slams Frieren tho, no chance there - at least for now.

Barry
>>132729118

If we guess Frieren is 1300. Then you could guess that Serie could be up to 10 times older than her based on probable mana levels. As for Kraft, we could probably assume that Serie wasn't born until long after his Hero myth faded away. In other words I have no idea but its fun to try to figure it out.

Barry
>>132727273

@These Plums The problem is Kraft, there is no way Kraft wouldn't know about Serie and he doesn't seem to be a liar either. If nobody alive is aware of his legends then Serie must be far younger.

SlackyTv

I think in the Manga Ubel and the Copy Mage passed as well

Guns

Been living the last 6 months watching Frieren with the same feeling and breath of fantasy of reading the Harry Potter books for the first time when I was a kid. I love this anime 🥺

Chilè

with the way productions work in japan, i seriously doubt season 2 gets the same treatment as season 1

Oni Legend

Serie saying Frieren was unskilled as a mage for how old she is, is a wild thing. But when you take in account the whole mana detection weakness thing where its an incredibly novice thing that Frieren doesn’t know how to do, it actually kinda makes sense. Just like with how she talks about and views time passing, from our perspective as humans Frieren is fucking nuts and insane but from the perspective of elves and their lifespans, she’s still relatively a novice Especially when compared to Serie and Kraft who are just so goddamn old and have been around so damn long they’ve probably seen 100 demon kings, 100 heroes party, 2000 different empires, whatever that its not even a matter of being overleveled, they’re just flat out not in the game atp

Vincent S Deluca
>>132752023

Serie said Frieren was pretty avg/Unskilled for an elf of her age, the thing that kinda evens things out is her Mana concealment cause it wins her fights shed probably otherwise lose. Serie is probs a prodigy whose def been a mage longer than Frieren

DJ Muldrow

Roshi threw ice at Sheera when they first met lmao I loved lupa for that bro 😭

Gabriel Sanchez
>>132761852

i think its more on the fact that Frieren studies and looks for "low" level spells like being able to talk fast without biting ur tongue whilst Serie has omega level spells etc. Certain spells take long to learn (relative to humans) but since an elf's lifespan is long it doesnt mean much

Nancchi
>>132761822

Idk man. With the love this show gets from Asia AND the west, I have a feeling it’ll drop fast. Komi Can’t Communicate got a 2nd season fast af because it received such love from all over the world, which Frieren is receiving already. Hopefully I’m right in this case.

Nancchi
>>132753772

Spoiler for those who haven’t read the manga…. That arc had me trippin bro! Even knowing what race that person was. Fuuuuuck I’m ready to see that animated

These Plums
>>132744184

@Barry I think it will happen regardless of whether its intentional or not

Tay
>>132761852

its not that she studies them its just that she looks for any spell no matter how random which most the time is going to be a relatively irrelevant low level spell. she just wants them anyway . serie has said that she already knows ever spell there is so she knows those random ones to but she puts more effort into gaining strength as whole then frieren who tends to slack off.

YungZeus

A whole hater

xX Valtiel Xx

Man, next arc is gonna be insane, i want it soon, but i hope they give it the love it deserves.

CleoKujo

Imagine a 2 on 2 fight with Frieren and Fern vs Serie and Ubel cause now I can see Serie becoming her apprentice🤔

Hello
>>132731498

I thought of Kraft but he doesn't really have much under his belt. He saved the world but so did frieren's group. Unlike serie who can kinda just casually flex her mana and what not, we would need to see the guy actually fight for more confirmation imo. Kraft doesn't have any impressive on screen stuff tbh.

Isaac

Damn, every character in this anime is so engaging. I wanna know more about these side characters, especially Denken because clearly this guy had a wild life up to this point with all this wisdom he's been spitting since we first seen him.

Endo

hello if possible maybe hire moderators that delete manga spoilers.

Novafan
>>132761822

Komi did not get nowhere near the love that Frieren got. Komi dropped off so fast and is nowhere near the quality of writing and animation of Frieren.

Polygon
>>132761852

@Gabriel Frieren also spent centuries just bumming around in the woods until Himmel recruited her instead of actively training, that's another reason why Serie is disappointed in her growth.

3LD3RDR4G0N

Fun Fact: When Himmel said he thought magic was beautiful, he wasn't looking at the flowers, he was looking at Frieren. :)

Polygon
>>132735752

@bark That's kinda just Serie trying to poach Fern lol, she gives the same spiel to every student she's had. Fern has talent and does have a ton of potential though, but she's still ultimately a human limited by her lifespan like Flamme and Lernen. She's done nothing yet to suggest she'd ever reach the heights of Serie or the Demon King. Atm in the manga she's still low-tier First Class Mage. Will have to wait for more chapters though, who knows.

Dud3 itsj3ff

Lowkey mad she failed Frieren.... Like cmon, you're like 600+ and still that petty? LAME

Rishad GB

the guy WHO can LITERALLY BEAT FRIEREN and SAW the suppression of a thousand years.....even HE couldnt see serie's fluctuation but FERN DID ....bro she is a natural talent

Sham3ful
>>132761822

I'd assume so, but idk if I want s3 so soon with how Mappa is at time.

K T
>>132912788

Thing is, Frieren says her intuition is always right. She is being petty, but Frieren can't see herself becoming a 1st class mage, meaning she is also as stubborn/petty to the point of not being able to compromise. I also think the other part of it is, Frieren doesn't care about being 1st class; she has no ambition to do so and therefor is unmotivated to visualize herself becoming one.

Charlie baker

Yall missed her saying frierens kinda ass for as old as she is