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What are they doing with this guys character arc?? lol

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Dues Montana

it’s his fault for thinking he can just beat baki characters like that and expect to beat baki next like these dudes have what he don’t the will to fight to the death to kill one another the stench of violence that what it means to fight in baki

Josue

rip jr lmfao

Devin B

And thus the humbling begins

Chance Lee

The author fucking hates boxing and the US

brayan crespo

The whole point is that everyone fights prepared for death except for him, he’s afraid and not willing to die in a fight

madmax

mmmmuhamed alai jrrr

Chance Lee

There's no real reason the Mangaka just loves to shit on boxing

zkdglo

And thus, y’all have witnessed Fraudhammad Alai Jr

earthphoenix7068

Roshi, Jack got leg lengthening surgery on all 4 of his limbs remember? He's fucking like 9 feet tall

V STAN

It begins

That Guy

Idk about that one itegaki actually practiced amateur boxing while in the military.

Kingmakaii

Rossi yo question is what all of us was asking when this shit first dropped you have a whole boyfriend bro why are you still entertaining this bitch ass nigga lmao and soon as I seen Jack I was like yeah bro finna get his ass beat 😭

That Guy

Looking back through this arc i think itegaki wants to point out the gap between baki and ali jr as baki has been injured greatly and was still able to pull out wins expect from yujiro .where as if ali jr is greatly injured he is basically done.

TrixieTurner

Lol Junior straight getting clowned, he's fresh into the world of Baki so he doesn't know how things work yet. Of course its Jack that would run his shit for real first.

zyjhay green

Never fight anyone with the last name hanma

Camzero1

Its season 1 rules - whenever, wherever, however

Bob Bob

Roshi dont ask, this Alai Jr. arc was just a placeholder.

Jeremiah Wagner

They all know he’s injured but that don’t mean you shouldn’t be prepared to run the ones. They’re showing that while Ali jr is strong he ain’t ready for a real death match. Like Baki fought whole poisoned on the verge of death, doppo fought with a lost hand, and matsuri fought after just getting set on fire. Anything goes here. That’s why he was surprised when they wanted to fight him again cause he thought it was gonna be a one and done thing.

Chance Lee

What kind of cope? If you're a boxer in baki it's rip 😭😭and seeing how the last season played itagaki just hates boxing and America in general

Reese Daboss

at the beginning of Baki it was about defeat, since ali jr has been winning his fights, he hasn't accepted defeat. even Baki has accepted his defeat in the past.

Chance Lee

Explain why every boxer in baki gets brutally destroyed, injuried or humiliated?

One & Only

So begins the biggest bullshit of this season

Chance Lee

And look what he did to Mike Tyson and Mani Pacquiao? Both got bitched and humiliated any boxer based on a real person is rip in the Baki universe😭😭

Panda

Roshi you gotta remember, Doppo Orochi is the guy that got his hand cut off and was fighting with that shit healing in a cast, and im pretty sure before he broke the cast he used it as a weapon a few times lmao. It might be BS for some people to say you gotta be ready to fight when ever but at least he backs it up.

lomez

Doppo's excuse would be bullshit in real life, but at that point Junior had nothing broken except his finger so by Baki logic his fighting ability wouldn't be impaired yet.

KeYo

did they forget what show they watching? they don't give a fuck about honor and shit lol. I don't feel bad for JR at all. how you gonna run up on people just to get to baki? you was treating them like they stepping stones and well....some of them lost until Jack beat your ass lmao. baki at home sipping a drink and licking kozue nipples while you getting smoked lol

ScaLe

What Doppo did wasnt anything unmanly or bitchlike in their world. theres eyepokes, theres ball kicking, theres attacking while on the ground, theres no weightclasses or respecting the elders, theres no holding back. If you fight you fight, it doesnt matter what you use or the condition that youre in. Ali JR challenged them while they were living their life randomly strolling around and they did the same to him, if he isnt in his best condition it isnt their fault.

Bertie Poole

Sheera's audio has been weirdly low compared to you guys for a while now. She's really hard to hear at times, its sad.

That Guy

Not exactlly true for one in season one of baki Yuri Chakovsky beat 14 year old baki greatly which caused him to go into his mountain training arc.and to then get injured by hanayama later on.and in the manga itegaki brings up alot of boxers and there techniques and how they are useful (ali,tyson,frasir,manny,etc)he has a great love for boxing.but i will say this alot of sport martial arts do lose in his manga but maybe thats because he doesnt see them winning all out real world death fight .finally i dont think he hates america seeing that biscuit is litterally one of the strongest characters in the series and dorian had the baki cast in a headlock for a while.

Nick Vaughn

I’m very curious about what their reaction is going to be to the end of this arc and what ultimately happens. I still have mixed feelings about it

Panda

It might just be the setup being better at picking up base, i feel like i can hear lupa the clearest with his normal voice and he has the most base in his voice.

ShaquanVirse

Kozue and her actions will make more sense later

That Guy

Itegaki doesnt see sports martial arts(including boxing) them winning all out fight to the death or great bodily harm. He has done the same to olympic wrestlers,professional wrestlers,taekwondoe,mma,kosen judo,kendo,even sumo.you may say what about doppo or katsumi who practice karate?idk they may be an exception but depending on what type of style they practice they may not even be considered a sport style of karate

Shad

I've never seen a character go out as sad as this nigga wtf

xProKnockz

Y’all reaction to doppo vs jr was hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

Sasha

Is Sheera still vegetarian?

Dues Montana

i mean it’s baki they’ll respect your reputation but we not letting mike tyson beat yujiro hanma because he’s mike tyson it’ll ruin the character that was already established

Guav

I went from getting annoyed by jr piecing them up to getting mad that they just beat his ass like that lol

That Guy

Not really alot of professional fighters have fought injured and some have won but most have lost that way

Andrew Reid Jr

Baki sicked the boys on Jr

Alexander Szabo

Chance, ofc they're getting hoe'd in the Baki verse. They're still just "regular" top fighters compared to these monsters.

Dues Montana

literally and it’s mainly ali fault for stepping into a world different then boxing he treated them as boxers when in truth they would kill each other without a second thought it’s like putting a pro basketball player against a street ball player

Devin B

You guys should've learned during the prisoner arc but a fight is a fight no matter the conditions. Even if you're using a weapon or you're not in your best condition it doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is the last man standing is the winner.

Andrew Reid Jr

Every fight in Baki's circle is willing to fight to the death no matter what condition they're in. The showed us that in the prisoner arc. It was literally on sight every episode. All the prisoners used "unfair" tactics but it was ruled fair play by everyone involved.

Sasha

I'm glad they called out Doppo Orochi as a coward because that's what he fucking is. And the old man too. I hope somebody fucks them up so bad they can never fight again. Respect to Jack Hanma tho.

Sasha

What do you mean learned? Baki isn't the life rule you know.

Devin B

It basically is because in a street fight with no rules life isn't going to give you the chance to fight in fair conditions and in your best condition. Anything can happen at anytime and anywhere.

Sasha

So you don't feel bad for jr just because of the shows rules. Are you one of those Baki fuckboys whose life is all about the anime.

Sasha

You think he doesn't have amything broken after the match with old man and Jack? Just because it doesn't show on the outside don't mean nothing is broken. The two fight already were the most ruthless ass kicking of the whole show and you say only his finger is broken.

Lotus Gramarye

Junior's beatdown in this episode is pretty consistent with the series' logic, imo. Up to this point he was clearly building him as a new rival to Baki, but he did so by giving him easy wins against people who were lightweights by the series' standards. Dave, the one wrestler dude, was *just* a pro athlete, all the Kaioh's aside from Retsu and Kaku were explicitly described as being soft and lacking. And when Junior fought Doppo and Shibukawa for the first time the fights didn't last for more than a few minutes... which is never how the actual serious fights go. When the opponent gets seemingly beaten is when they always come back with some super dirty shit and get a win. Just my thoughts on this plot point when taking the show of Baki as a whole, into consideration.

Alfredo

Frederick

Bro Don’t FUCK WITH THE HANMAs 😂

FreshxEli Tv

💀😂 Fighting Jack Was His Biggest Mistake As A Boxer , As A Figher , Shiiit Even as a Human

PiquesoJac

nah, it just goes to show that ali isn’t ready when it comes to an actual fight to the death, which is why he lost

KeYo

idk wether to reply to this or wipe my ass with it but I already replied so no I'm not a baki fuckboy. you tried tho lol. get better sasha

Devin B

I think most people are used to watching fights in sports and think that there should be some ground rules going into a fight but realistically nothing is ever going to be fair in a street fight. Jr is used to fighting in a certain format so of course he's going through it right now when he's out in the real world of fighting. Lol and yeah Kozue might be having tea with Jr but Baki is having more than that with her.

Sasha

Jr. could have killed Doppo and the old man in the first fight if he wanted to. But they could only beat him because he was severely wounded.

VampCinder

tbh he kinda deserves it for being a whole bitch and trying to piss off Baki by going after his girl. Should've just fought Baki straight up instead of trying to symbolically beat his legacy first. But also the mangaka DEFINITELY just likes making American characters to clown on them. Dorian, Spec, Ali Junior, and a few others you haven't really seen all of yet. Makes them serious at first, but eventually he always makes them look stupid/weak/goofy in some way to push them out.

Kwaku Afari

It's Jrs fault for fighting them without knowing about them completely. Baki's circle of fighters will fight regardless of their condition at any moment which is why they accepted fighting the prisoners. They will run it back if they have to. I think Jr fighting his Dad will maybe make his understand it.

Garion pope

Honestly through the comment section I get why Ali is getting his ass kicked but the way it was handled just seems like petty as hell except for Jack’s. All in All, the writer did Ali so dirty, made this man a mega simp.

Novy Navarro

Ali Jr doesnt have that red glint in his eyes compared to the people he fought this ep.

Novy Navarro

Oliva is one the strongest people in this show and hes black and American.

PiquesoJac

are y’all forgetting that doppo literally got his hand cut off, and fought with it😭

Izanagi15

Thats cause Jr. didn't understand what it really means to fight to the death. None of them actually took him seriously. Just like how he didn't take them seriously the first time.

ShaquanVirse

The manga sorta adds more hints that Kozue just wants Baki to fight for her so she's being petty and making him jealous

VampCinder

Oh cool, ONE significant guy who is genuinely really strong. But let's be real. As strong as Olivia is, he definitely gets the short end of about a million jokes in a later arc. I'm not gonna get into details since this is a spoiler-free comment section, but IMO he really gets turned into a clown. But yes, he's strong. I'll give you that.

Sasha

So if Jr. took them seriously at the first time the result would be the same. Old man and Doppo are dead. Don't know about Jack tho.

Danny boy

as much as i love this show the ali jr arc is complete ass.

Bob Heath

Doppo is allowed to be on his bullshit since he would still be a monster with injuries worse than Junior

ShaquanVirse

It does Kozue injustice (I think Roshi and gang would understand how Kozue is a ride or die if they watched the original series with her)

Waifu Connoisseur

most boxers IRL get their shit pushed in by MMA. Also, name 1 character in Baki that doesn't get destroyed, injured or humiliated.

danial javady

If you google it you can see a lot of fans argue that he might be to some degree 'racist'. At the very least he's clearly very nationalist though with how all the baddest characters being japanese

danial javady

:\ i thought alis son would've been cold wtf is this

Charlie baker

So ita not racially motivated its nationality motivated, itagaki pretty much always puts down other countries fighters to make tha jaoanese look good

Charlie baker

Considering doppo kept fighting after his hand was cut off getting mad at the boxer not being up to the same seems one sided, jr gets destroyed because hes not in the same class and all his early fights work to delude the notion that his a list in skill but the new kaiohs were weak by everyone elses standards so his best claim to fame was worth less then nothing. Jr just knocked em out and walked off. Jack showed how you finish fights in baki, something jr whos a sportsman in mindset failed to do amd thus got demolished. Frankly top boxers were made fodder in universe midway during the maximum tournament after tyson got folded during his later match. Even a faster younger version of ali is just a stepping stone for the ridiculous monsters in baki. Think its also worth noting kozue says during this episode that i dont mind meeting you for lunch but thats all you should expect from me, she maintains solid boundaries that this aint a date lol.

Charlie baker

Frankly i enjoy the notion they're lowkey jumping jrs ass for trying to steal bakis girl right under his nose lmao

That Guy

I guess yujiro since he is the the peak of strength in the series.I mean there have been times he has been caught off guard or even stumbled, but straight bitched ? The only person think of thats hasent been completely dismantled is yujiro

magnet

to be fair a lot of mangaka's typically make their nationality shine more in their stories than others. I'm haven't read all of baki. I've read up to the end of the father and son duel, so i don't know if something super nationality wise happens or not.

Charlie baker

Its just pretty evident with how he props up later japanese main contenders not to mention baki,yujiro,andbthe rest besides retsu

VampCinder

I mean I'm not gonna go around calling the dude racist or anything. He just very clearly uses other countries as devices to create a "Japan vs idiots" narrative at multiple points in the story. Unsurprisingly, America tends to take the hits for that very often. It is what it is. I still like Baki despite that.

Himothy

Maintains solid boundaries with a dude tryna undermine her boyfriend. Makes perfect sense 😒

Charlie baker

Considering all shes doing is grabbing lunch periodically and baki maintains hes not worried about junior at all. Frankly its alot healthier then most anime relationships lol

22TheDon

You can say that with every fighter in Baki, unless you’re Yuijiro Hanma every other character has got their ass kicked

Chuzo

Ngl Ali deserved all this bro was writing mad checks his body can't cash.

Chuzo

Oh and the creator isn't racist he's known to be extremely Nationalist "which is like racist on steroids lol'", He views all other countries lower than Japan so he makes them all trash in his stories or overshadows them. Like one fighter from the older series who was Japanese but hails from America they hyped him up sooo crazy even Yujiro took him in as his only student only to get washed by Doppo orochi and then Yujiro got pissed so yk what happens next he freakin kills him lmao

Art of Trolling

Bro why she keep meeting up with this dude, she knows damn well he isn't trying to be "Friends".

Ultra Sen

Its just wild considering how much love the creator gave Ali Sr. up until this point. The shift in tone is almost a middle finger to all of the hype they were giving Ali and his "Completed Boxing Style"

Charlie baker

Considering he continues to put respect on ali sr, its honestly pretty funny. Itagaki honestly shouldve been consistent that all high level real world fighters arent worth fighting for baki elites

Phroug

Doppo got every right to be willing to fight an injured man because he's willing to fight while being injured himself. Don't forget when he got his hand cut off and was still out there throwing the nub

Ranginald Vagel

God this arc is so funny returning to it

Charlie baker

He punched dorian in the face with the stump, had it reattached and beat his ass with the thing barely healed at all. Not to mention getting his face exploded by doyle then fucking up doyle. Further back he gets his eye taken and heart stopped after pushing yujiro into using his demon back after fighting his ass off to beat shibukawa before that. Lets not pretend hes not fought tougher fights with bigger handicaps

Tsuki

Did u not see when he punched while his hand was cut off? Or we not watching the same anime?

Tsuki

Dude, u forgetting doppo fought while one of his hands is cut off and punched w it too

Mr T Allery

you dont know what you are talking about lol they were toying with junior because he is new to all this fighting why do you think they came back after he thought he won? its because it wasnt a real fight

Newerk

Although Ali jr's chin checks are very effective, there's nothing deadly about him. A move like that works in an arena with rules, but we've seen the extent other baki characters go through to win a real fight. These mf's are monsters fr. Bro really isnt cut out for their world. He was so cocky, running around and challenging everyone to a sparring match. I cant wait for yall to reach the newer seasons, shit is nuts

Jalani Abdul-Aziz

Just my 2 sense, they doing Ali Jr like this because he thought he was hot shit basically. (As a Blackman myself you hate to see it) He basically sped ran through the the old heads but those weren’t (real fights) due to this shows standards. Mfs was fighting with bombs and hidden blades, cut off limbs etc.Kozue being the way she is will be cleared up. Also with fight with his dad, Ali Sr got his body broken down by Junior when he was old and already messed up Jr just made it to the point he drooling on himself. So with Ali Sr coming for his fight it kinda signifies that he’s doing the exact thing he did to him in a way. Overall very “eh” story arc and writing but it’ll wrap up decently

Leon

I absolutely still cannot understand what's going through Kozue's mind entertaining this guy going out for lunch and shit. This was the last arc I've watched and now re-watching, still cannot fathom why. She for the streets.

Arima Kana

If you guys think jr is done dirty enough in this eq, next ep will probably blow your mind further 😆

Newerk

ali had to get humbled, he dont know baki was fighting a nigga with chunks ripped out of him by bare hands. Baki is lowkey insane with the amount of torture he's willing to put himself through. and ali fr seems to have only fought in rings his entire life, up until he arrived to japan

Newerk

yeah, if he wanted to REALLY fight baki, just throw hand then and there. Baki said he doesnt want to fight him, but he will fight back if ali challenged him on the spot.

Dede (edited)

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2023-10-04 08:36:52 Junior has been approaching each battle as a ‘match’, rather than as a ‘fight’ which is the problem here and now it’s royally coming back to bite him in the ass. Doppo even hints at this in his shit talking: instead of beating each opponent so bad, they would NEVER want to face him again (case and point: how Jack dealt with him), Junior just got the wins and called it a day, allowing each person to come back and get even. It’s the reverse of the prison arc situation, and if any of the main characters approached the fights with those psychopaths as a ‘simple match’ we would equally call them out as idiots. None of these people are sportmen, and they certainly don’t give a damn about things like sportsmanship and honour. It’s a street fight, anything and everything is fair game. It’s a hard lesson that has been shown since the very start of the prison arc, that treating these encounters like matches and not fights to the death is a recipe for disaster. Especially for a character like Junior who has only dealt with fights in a sporting/official capacity.
2023-10-04 06:34:41 Junior has been approaching each battle as a ‘match’, rather than as a ‘fight’ which is the problem here and now it’s royally coming back to bite him in the ass. Doppo even hints at this in his shit talking: instead of beating each opponent so bad, they would NEVER want to face him again (case and point: how Jack dealt with him), Junior just got the wins and called it a day, allowing each person to come back and get even. It’s the reverse of the prison arc situation, and if any of the main characters approached the fights with those psychopaths as a ‘simple match’ we would equally call them out as idiots. None of these people are sportmen, and they certainly don’t give a damn about things like sportsmanship and honour. It’s a street fight, anything and everything is fair game. It’s a hard lesson that has been shown since the very start of the prison arc, that treating these encounters like matches (and not fights to the death) is a recipe for disaster. Especially for a character like Junior who has only really dealt with fights in a sporting/official capacity.

Junior has been approaching each battle as a ‘match’, rather than as a ‘fight’ which is the problem here and now it’s royally coming back to bite him in the ass. Doppo even hints at this in his shit talking: instead of beating each opponent so bad, they would NEVER want to face him again (case and point: how Jack dealt with him), Junior just got the wins and called it a day, allowing each person to come back and get even. It’s the reverse of the prison arc situation, and if any of the main characters approached the fights with those psychopaths as a ‘simple match’ we would equally call them out as idiots. None of these people are sportmen, and they certainly don’t give a damn about things like sportsmanship and honour. It’s a street fight, anything and everything is fair game. It’s a hard lesson that has been shown since the very start of the prison arc, that treating these encounters like matches (and not fights to the death) is a recipe for disaster. Especially for a character like Junior who has only really dealt with fights in a sporting/official capacity.

Rainz

The writing in Baki is straight doodoo 🤣

matt B

wdym? It is the best written show ever made and that will ever be made!

Tommie

boxing is the inferior form of martial arts it’s common sense

sotonye ogan

Nigga that was like one punch and the nigga took off lmao. Funny how he waited until Jr was in bandages to get his lick off.

zkdglo

I mean no offense saying this but did you watch the original? Because this would be par for the course in the Maxim tournament

Roko

You guys dont remember when baki fought while his body was poisoned? Baki had no excuses but Jr. did. Jr is just to cocky thinkink he ist the best without seeing the world and the other fighters are just showing him the world they live in.

Shawn Oxley

Jr had the filthiest run backs he aint deserve that but he was out of line for the kozue stuff then again shes for the streets

LeHarlequin .

Nah bro, he's black so he can't lose w/o it being racially motivated. It's simple.

LeHarlequin .

I feel like you can tell by her facial expressions. You can't expect the average Baki fan to pick up on subtlety though.

Charlie baker

Funny hoe every other character continues to fight even when brutally injured while.jr breaks gets beat up and cuts his tongue then shibukawa breaks a finger and throws him around and suddenly dudes made of glass for doppo. Do yall not remember haneyama getting knecapped, curb stomped and his face exploded and still fighting or baki being on the brink of death. Jr trys to make excuses after trying to say hes hot shit against life and death warriors.

Charlie baker

Dudes just a fast boxer, not sure why anyone expects real world fighters kids not to be dogshit consider ali himself was fodder in universe

Charlie baker

Its just weirdly written but kozue ultimately just goes out to lunch with dude a few times and would rather not see him kill himself like this. Itagaki is bad at conveying it but kozue never really entertains dating ali jr during this arc.

Charlie baker

I mean you can argue its unfair all you want baki and his fellow fighters consistently maintain it literally doesn't matter what condition youre in if you fight in their league you nut up or shut up. Haneyama being the golden example of this rule in his fightbwith speck.

LeHarlequin .

Ugh. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't stop it from "peepin game" 😮‍💨 #aware

Charlie baker

Dude isnt severely wounded especially by baki standards, he got smacked around abunch and had a broken finger and split tongue. He broke his hands being he punched dude wrong and every other injury he got fighting doppo really was the result of dude just not watching himself

Charlie baker

doppo,shibukawa and jack wouldnt hsve minded one bit if he had is the funny thing, they still wouldve fought him

Lamaree Jackson

When a black person becomes WWE Champion but then they have to fight Brock Lesnar the next day. That was this episode

Bertie Poole

Maybe they're just too full of your mama's cum for me to hear her right. Definitely still hear her lower than the others though.

Orlando

everything will make sense in the next episode or two.....dont lose your horses yet my friends but yeah next arc is 10/10

HybridEclpse

It feels like the older gents were tryna teach that to Ali Jr., Like, "It doesn't matter if you're at the top of your game or hurt. I'll fight you on-site if I feel like it." Also, didn't Baki endure the same thing, if not worse, when he was training in the OG anime? Like fighting Gaia and the giant ape thing, for example?

Vincent S Deluca

I think the point is that JR is convinced hes the strongest and acts like it, but he's an Arena fighter and hasnt earned that yet. He only fights in top condition and never truly to the death. Orochi, Shibukawa, Jack, Baki, etc are all hardened martial artists, they fight in whatever condition they happen to be in (Like Baki fighting on the brink of death poisoned lol) injured or otherwise, its not expected that you will always be at the top of your game.

Fizzy

This was a lesson for Mohammad ali jr basically he thought he he could fight these top combatants and think shit was sweet lol these dudes are ruthless they fight whether they are injured or missing limbs it’s not really shocking that they wanted a run back. Pretty sure this way of thinking was established in season 1 of Baki.

Fizzy

All the fact that Baki fought while poisoned or the time hannyama fought speck with hardly no mouth

Sasha

Why do you all want to fight me in the comments. Doppo is a coward like all three said. And I don't watch and comment anime based on "it's own standards"

Chance Lee

More like he just hates America, he makes china almost as strong as Japan

Aaron Gauntt

I know the common theme is JR got worked because he thought he was the best but my head cannon is that they fucked him up because of of how he treated kosue

Alfredo

The way Jack stomped his ass out was vicious, I felt kinda bad...for 3 seconds, then I got more snacks to watch his next L. He can keep Hoezue, she needs to catch hands next.

Griffith Augustine

If you think he ain’t deserved it and not know how the fighters in Baki get they run back you retarded as hell 😭

TypicalDemon

And this is when the streets claim another one

Rainz

I thought the run backs was tearing him down to build him up for an epic final fight with Baki and well that was expecting too much from this show. Like I said straight ass.

J Man

Mohammed L Lee Jr.

Kablamoo101

yo sheera's shirt is fire🔥🔥

Kodiyami

No excuses, we had mfs losing arms in this show and getting blown up and getting their lick back. But when mfs do it to someone black it’s considered racist 😭

Ougi

"Epic Final fight " bro acting like Jr is some yujiro level threat lmao. Forcing ur expectations onto something, only for those expectations tk betray you is completely on you. Calling it ass because the specific turn of events you wanted to happen, didn't happen is hilarious.

Leo

Welcome to the American mindset lmfao

CentipedeKid

Why are people clowning Ali Jr when he's being ganged up on back to back by some of the strongest fighters in Japan.

Christopher

always hated kozue for even entertaining this fool.

RazzyXM

To be fair I think the reason Kozue called him uncool is that he has done nothing but lie to her every single time they've met. Even the stuff he says to her is mainly to avoid talking about how he got kept getting f'd up

Dous Dous

Idk man. If someone started something and got beat down, but kept trying to do their petty bull...you not clowning them? Ijs, if someone tried to get me to fight them by making advances at my girl and coming for my boys AND bro and gets a combat train on him, Ima die laughing.

Marcopopo350

@leo stop acting dense, even if itagaki isn't racist, Which I think is a big if. The dude is mad weird for even writing ali jr in this situation. He really played up the racial stereotypes of a black man trying to steal another dudes girl. An asian girl at that. The fact that he ends up getting his ass kicked the entire arc and turned into a joke is just icing on top.

Marcopopo350

@Kodiyami I know you dudes like dick riding hard for baki. But this isn't it. Itagaki was definitely on his japanese supremacy type shit when he was writing this.

Marcopopo350

@LeHarlequin You niggas really like acting dense about this huh? This whole arc was mad sus. But lets just act like that's everyone's imagination

Marcopopo350

@Charlie baker Bruh stop dick riding the author so much. Itagaki really dropped the ball with ali jr. And that's just a fact. There was no reason for him to build up Ali the way he was in previous arcs for them to do him dirty like that. This isn't even getting into how much he fucked kozues character having her act like a weird ass ho that wants to play games.

Roko

So many people got folded and disrespected in this show by many strong fighters and the only one you dint accept is when Jr. Gets his ass beaten the same way we sam many times befor. There is no difference with Jr. He challenges the main cast of baki and loses like many others befor him. And now you think this is sus? Dont force your mindset on me dude with this nosense. You are mad crazy

Tsuki

At least he got a hit in before the hospital. Jr fought all these niggas after getting treatment. All I’m saying doppo has every right

Marcopopo350

@Roko Dont put words in my mouth cuz, I know people get folded in this show. But you crazy if you don't think its little bit sus at how they did Ali in this arc. Look at how how Ali jr was built up previously. To just shit on him relentlessly was just racism or bad writing at its worst. Really felt like the author just has a hate boner for Ali jr. Especially with that dumbass kozue plotline. But nope, go ahead and play slow.

Roko

I didnt put any words in your mouth, you should read befor you reply. No its not sus because like the prison arc befor the 5 prisioners got build up and then got folded by many fighter in a row sometimes. You just seek for racism here and this is not ok. This is my last reply to you because you dont seem to understand at all and all you see is something racist in this case. Have a nice day and enjoy life.

Kodiyami

This is my first watch through for Baki, I’m watching it with them, and even I knew what was going on. Jr was being a dickhead going against underground fighters randomly thinking they weren’t going to spin back and rematch him again injured or not. It’s his fault not theirs. Yeah you could see it your way but that don’t take away from the fact that HE LITERALLY ASKED FOR THIS when he started. No one told him to go around and pick fights with people he don’t know, that was his problem and he now deals with the consequences. Hell one dude he fought literally had his whole arm cut off and suffered from the severe burns of an explosion and HE still fought. So we gonna forget about the prison dude who literally turned into a Good guy last season but kept getting his ass kicked? And they laughed at that? Is this not the same situation? Just SMALLER mind you.

Kodiyami

Hell I’m black and even I seen it this way, bro had it coming for him

Marcopopo350

@Roko How about you take your advice about reading bozo. I read everything you typed. And I didn't even say it was racist but that there is a possibly of it. So miss me with that. And what a weak ass rebuttal to try and defend this shit with bringing up the prison arc when them dudes put in heavy work and almost came super close to beating the main baki cast. Which is more then you can say for Ali jr. But whatever. Stay burying your head in the sand. Its no skin off my back.

Ougi

@marcopopo350 some of what ur saying Is brainless. Fym "an Asian girl at that" u think that 'black men stealing specifically Asian girls' was a common enough stereotype in 1990s Japan for itagaki to think 'yeh lemme include that'. He's def sus considering the shit with olivas wife, but in this situation specifically you're seeing shit that isn't there.also don't act like he didn't do dorian and doyle and sikorsky, all non Japanese characters significantly worse than he did Jr.

Charlie baker

yeah gaia and the yasha ape beat bakis ass way worse then jr got done and so did people like shinogi kosho in s2.

Marcopopo350

@Kodiyami bruh, you dudes continue to miss the point. Nobody is saying that none of the other characters have not taken Ls. But the way Ali jr was built up and the fact that he is the son of a legendary black fighter and one of the few black characters to just get whooped like that. Taking multiple Ls in one Arc for even daring to step to the main cast. Just seems strangely spiteful. And for even more dumb reasons like trying to take bakis girl is just weird as hell. I could get into spoiler territory. But its not even comparable to the prison dude who turned good. Considering at least that dude didn't go out crying like a bitch. I can understand if you don't see it an just want to enjoy the show bro. But its pretty noticeable to me🤷🏿‍♂️

Marcopopo350

@Ougi its only brainless because you either lack the intelligence or the experience to recognize what I'm saying. And you heard what I said mofo. You can act slow if you want to. But anyone with at least two braincells, knows that one of the more bigger stereotypes for us. Is the big black man is trying to steal other peoples wives. Especially wives of other men from other races like white women or Asian women. Hell an innocent black boy by the name of Emmet till ended up getting tortured and killed over that. So don't act like I'm making shit up. Learn your history dawg. This shit was also way more apparent back then even in the 90s were racism was still pretty relevant. That type of mindset is still very prevalent in white supremacist circles, especially the hate they have for interracial couples. So they would have a field day with this. Its also a huge thing in porn. Which makes the whole thing seem like some reverse ntr plot where the mc beats up and humiliates the black guy who dared to sleep with his Asian girlfriend. And its not a contest my guy, notice how I'm not flat out saying itagaki is racist. Just that there is a possibility. I have seen other comments that he is a Japanese nationalist. So that probably plays into it as well. My main point is that the shit is still very sus to me. And there is plenty of evidence to support it. In way that things went down in this arc. Also Sikorsky and Dorian were literally criminals and worse. There is pretty much an expectation there going to get done dirty. Ali jr is is the son of a legendary black fighter. Even if you ignore the possible sus racism. Its jarring as hell that they did this man dirty like this, especially when he was baki's whole ass ally an arc ago.

Kodiyami

Again YOURE missing the point. He actively CHOSE to fight these people knowing damn well how they operate. So you’re saying if someone is trying to fight you so they go OUT of their way to talk to your girl, fight people who you KNOW are underground down and dirty fighters and you’ve faced them before mind you, you know how they work. Black or white, if that people went through that and they ended up getting beat up by those friends you’ve got. You’re gonna feel bad? Idc if he’s black or not, you chose to do this now you’re gonna pay the consequences it’s that simple. If you’re used to fighting and messing around with mfs who are professional and have certain rules and what not and try to come somewhere on the street and fight mfs who beat people to death. THATS ON YOU. You chose to do this..didn’t NO ONE tell him to go out and fight them. And guess how he payed for it? Thinking shit was sweet? Mf got beat the fuck up. He’s glad they didn’t kill him..The Prisoners were from other places too and they got the same treatment, so why couldn’t Jr get the same? Idc if you ended up fighting my friends and they came back to beat your ass YOU made that happen . This could have been avoided if you just stayed in your lane. If you can’t see that then idk what to tell you, he don’t KNOW those people..Why tf did he think it was smart to pick fights and not expect to get ran up on. Idc who his dad is…his dad could be strongest creature in the world, I’m still not gonna care he got beat tf up for stepping to the wrong people who he don’t know. That’s his fault.. notice what you want but he had it coming the moment he started. Deserved

Marcopopo350

@Kodiyami Dawg the only one missing the point is you. I already told you I don't mind the fact that dude got his ass whooped that isn't a point of contention. The issue is the fact dude literally got turned into a punching bag for the entire arc. Nobody said anything about feeling bad, I'm simply bringing up that it feels sus to me on how its written. Its like yall want to forget, that itagaki wrote a convenient way for one of the few black characters in his anime to get done dirty like that. I don't even have no issue with Ali jr playing the role of a villain. If its written well. But itagaki ends up turning the man into a straight up simp and clown. I don't know why you keep trying to argue the same ass point. I'm fine with Ali jr losing. But the way they go about in the anime and manga is just distasteful in my imo. Especially with how the arc ends having this dude crying like a bitch. And I don't know why yall keep brining up the prisoners. Guess what dude, THE PRISONERS WERE WHOLE SCUM, its pretty much expected that them dudes were going to get waxed. its not like Ali jr is the son of a whole legendary black boxer. And one of the few black fighters in the show. Like damn, there is only at least two black fighters in this show. And you cant at least show one them some respect. You think that would mean something. Especially considering how much baki fans claims itagaki be putting respect on Muhammad ali. But whatever I guess. The prisoners aren't really comparable considering some of them went out like straight up savages, even tho they lost. Clearly you cant see what I'm saying, just to be clear I don't have a problem with him getting his ass kicked especially when he started the fights. But its a lot more to it then that. Especially when you take into at how all this got set up in the first place. It felt a really weird turn for his character when he seemed a lot smarter in the previous arc. And him becoming a whole ass dumb simp for kozue was just unnecessary. Like I'm really trying to avoid spoilers. But all this leads to nothing with this dude except him taking all kinds Ls. He doesnet become any type of credible threat. Does not even learn nothing from it. Which is why I said it feels spiteful. Like why you do all this building up for his character only for him to end up like that. like even if you want to ignore the sus racism. its just bad writing at that point.

Dous Dous

Ik its not on Baki's behalf but because he wanted to get Baki's attention and seem like "the best," he's in Baki's world and challenging those around him, not realizing he's not built for the world he's stepping into. Clown behavior through and through. That's like if I wanted to fight Tyson and went around tryna challenge every boxer in his division with a bare minimum understanding of boxing (which, coincidentally, is all I have anyways). The audacity and ego alone makes me a laughingstock.

Infinity

This arc is basically about Jr's growth. He's going thru Baki's journey in reverse. Learning what it really means to be strong and fight. The earlier clappings were them playing by his rules. If they play by his rules he's a great arena fighter but he's not truly strong as exposed by his constant lying. It's going to only get worse for him soooooooo hope you weren't riding on homeboi lol.

Marcopopo350

Yeah you right, ut doyle got some dubs to. He also came out of it a better man.

Leo

You're basically just proving my initial comment lmfao. Replacing Ali Jr. with another character who isn't Black, I'm sure there wouldn't be an uproar like you are having. Just a couple of episodes ago, Chinese fighters were absolutely wiped and embarrassed. I don't see the same energy from you. Also from my viewpoint, I don't think the writing was set to disrespect black characters. Baki has many real-life cameo characters who end up getting clapped up. The writing is to show the power scale in Baki's universe by comparing them to real-life people. I'm not sure how far you are into Baki, but most real-life cameos are given their respect, then powered-scaled, and getting clapped up. It's showing what happens when you fuck around and find out with underground fighters (Fictional Characters).

Kodiyami

I ain’t reading allat but imma just let opinions be opinions and let it slide cause it really don’t matter fr. My bad for an argument

Zlee

Ah yes time for the writters to take their required hourly adderall for the show.

Marcopopo350

@Leo What are you even talking about? You got to be slow or something lol You haven't proved nothing dude. I have already told yall that lame ass comparison to the prisoners don't work. Considering the fact that they got showed way more respect then Ali jr did. Same thing with the Chinese fighters. You seem to be missing the part where there is legit only two black fighters in this entire show. No shit sherlock, I'm going to be more critical of how there portrayed in comparison to other races that are far more represented in the show. I mean if you don't see the sus racsism you just don't see it. Honestly I'm not even sure either. But It do feel sus. Still, nobody is upset about the other real life characters getting clapped up because there a majority lol There are only two black characters in this show that are relevant fighters. So yeah its going to come across worse when you potray them in bad light. What about that is so hard for you to understand?

Marcopopo350

@Kodiyami Bro really going to act like like he didn't write a whole damn essay his damn self lol And after I took all that time to respond. Whatever, Its cool tho. You have your opinion and I have mine.. Its respect either way for being able to keep things civil.

Leo

My initial comment was "Welcome to the American mindset". Japanese characters gets clapped, whatever. Chinese characters gets clapped, whatever. Russian, White American, etc; whatever. Black character gets clapped.."RACIST!" Essentially that's you lmfao And for the Sea King's sons they were hyped up and got shutdown in 2 seconds. I would argue that Ali Jr. got more respect represented in the show than they did. He was able to beat Baki's past opponents. This race issue stems only from your perspective. And ofc there's gonna be little representation of Black characters or any other race in a Japanese show. The same thing vice versa with shows elsewhere. You even mention yourself. You're not sure if there is racism in what you saw. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume you're black and since Ali Jr. is also black. It's only normal for you to be biased creating that "sus" feeling.

Marcopopo350

@Leo Yeah and your initial comment was and is still dumb ass hell. Because like I said of course there isn't going to be as much of an reaction when like 90 percent of the cast in Baki are Japanese or Chinese. Clearly I'm dealing with an idiot here. And I'm not going to keep repeating myself. You know there is more to my argument then that. But keep playing the fool. its not vice versa and shows your own ignorance. Clearly you aren't black which is why you can sit on your high chair and talk about things you have no understanding about. I get its a Japanese show and I can still critique the way my people are represented. Especially when there is already very little to no good representation of black people in not only media but especially anime. if that hurts your little feelings and you feel attacked because of it. I could give less of a fuck. I don't expect someone like you to understand or know what it feels like to to see so little of badass characters that look like them in media. And I'm not the only one that feels the way about this arc in particular, . Nor am I the only one who has thoughts that itagaki is possibly racist. if you stepped out of your patreon bubble you would know that.

zkdglo

Not really. I mean you can dislike it sure, but the ali arc isn’t particularly different from the way he hyped characters up in the og series just for them to get fodderized by the actual big hitters of baki. Hell he did it with Sikorsky when it came time to fight jack and Gaia

Marcopopo350

@zkdglo The difference is that Ali jr is one of the few black characters that is in the show. Its a little bit more worst for me. And its not like he is some no name fodder character. He is literally the son of Muhammad ali. That should mean something imo

Hasnain Khan

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Leo

Sounds to me you're the one who's feelings are hurt. Why should a Japanese show that's based in Japan with Japanese characters cater to you?

Ougi

@marcopopo350 in all fairness how the fuck was I ever supposed to know about a random innocent black boy getting tortured for that shit. Schools don't teach us about random dudes who get falsely accused for shit. So don't tell me "learn my history" when first, it ain't even my history and second, it's brainless to expect ppl to know info u probably came across by pure chance or actively searched for urself. Also I figured since that stereotype was started and then perpetuated by white people, it's unlikely it had made it to, and solidified itself within the average Japanese persons knowledge by the 90s. Reason being Japan was ridiculously xenophobic up until fairly recently, so the chance of that stereotype making it to itagaki during that time specifically to begin with is rather low. Now that's only given that he wasn't actively searching for stereotypes, if he was it's a different story. I would also like to add that itagakis daughter, the beastars mangaka, heavily explored themes of discrimination, stereotyping, racism and segregation in her work extremely well, demonstarting a great understanding of these things. That being the case, it's reasonable to assume she grew up in a tolerant, open minded environment which itagaki was specifically a part of.

Marcopopo350

@Leo Who said anything about it catering to me stupid. But don't expect for me not to criticize the show for those issues I have a problem with.

Marcopopo350

@Ougi Then maybe you should become more well informed before making statements that make you look like a dumbass. And the reason why I said learn your history. Because its still a part of general human history. And it was something you were specifically commenting on that you don't know shit about. So I still stand by the fact that you need to do your research and learn some shit. You know what is brainless, speaking on shit you know nothing about and trying to act smart. So take your own advice. Also Your defense makes no sense. You blatantly admit that Japanese people were heavily xenophobic which would also make them very racist to black people. Yet you don't see how the Whole foreigner stereotype of trying to steal my pure asian wife mindset wouldn't be present in that culture. Like how dense are you my guy? Also brining up beaststars and the daughter of itagaki is weird as hell. And continues to show your ignorance. For one, Beastars take on things like racism and discrimination isn't handled well for the same reason that the xmen's allegory to minorities with mutants isn't handled well. For the simple fact that humans as well as the prey in beastars have legitimate reasons to fear them. Which is different from hating someone due to the color of there skin. And furthermore just because she is his daughter doesn't not make itagaki not racist. There are plenty of normal well adjusted kids that have racist parents. So again another moot point.

Leo

It's the whole reason why this argument is even happening. It doesn't cater to you racially that's why you're butthurt. A black character loses in an embarrassing fashion and it's unacceptable to you because you share the same skin color. That doesn't automatically make the author racist. Why did he even write in Ali Jr. As a character? Maybe because he's historically the Goat of boxing. Ali is automatically the first person you would think of when you think about combat sports. As for the stereotypes, you're only validating them by believing in them. I'm a minority myself. My first watch of the series I didn't think Ali Jr's actions were because he's black. He wanted to get Baki's attention and fucked around and found out. Is there racism towards Black's in the world? Ofc, however this is not one of them. You just want to be a victim.

Marcopopo350

@Leo no this argument is happening because your butthurt that I dared to criticize your daddy itagaki. And your to stupid to see the problem on having one of the few black characters in this anime becoming a punching bag for other characters is an issue. Also Ali jr isn't a goat of boxing you dumb fuck. Its his father. And he uses Ali jr as a stand in for him which makes it even more fucked up. Also an even more dumb shit take which shouldn't surprise me considering who I'm dealing with. "As for the stereotypes, you're only validating them by believing in them" 🤓 Come on what's next einstein? Going to tell me that racism is all in the mind as well? Your for sure part of the problem. And even worse if you are a minority which I highly doubt. Keep showing your stupidity, I wonder just how far down the rabbit hole you want to keep going with this. Also calling us "blacks" is another big flag to. Let me guess that your a trump dick rider as well?

Leo

Nah, I'm just stating this ain't bigger than black and white and you're blowing it out of proportion. I'm not butthurt at all, it's you that's getting emotional. You claim you're keeping it civil yet belittling and name calling people who disagree with your viewpoints. And I know Ali Jr. Is a fictional character, but he was written to historically showcase Ali. My fault if that confused you. Racism isn't in the mind I mentioned it is a real problem, but you're definitely letting it control your daily life. Ali Jr. Became a punching bag because he was too cocky. Not because Itagaki is racist and wants to see a black person be a punching bag. It goes back to my previous point. If Ali Jr's charactee wasn't black. You wouldn't be reacting the way you are. You mention yourself, your outrage is because he's black. If a black person is shown even the slightest mistreatment it's automatically racist in your perspective.

Marcopopo350

@Leo now you want to backpedal and try to act like your on some high ground even tho you have been a passive aggressive dick head this whole time. You call it being emotional, I call it keeping it real. And you cant handle it. The last thing you have been for this convo is civil. So miss me with that. I literally said Ali jr was a stand in for the real the Ali. This goes back to my main point of you being stupid lol there is no other explanation for it. Also naw, don't start getting "emotional" on me my guy. I made two simple comments disagreeing with you an the other dude on your shitty take. Hardly am I just letting rule it my entire life lol Also again your missing the fact that Itagaki conveniently wrote Ali jr to be in that spot in the first place. So no, it doesn't absolve him like you think it does. He still wrote it. And yes dummy for the tenth time. I wouldn't have a problem if Ali had been another generic ass Asian dude. Because baki is chock full of cool Asian characters. Whereas there are legit only two black characters in this story. But clearly your to stupid to understand that. And yes, way to keep making shit up to fit your bullshit viewpoints and make up shit I never typed. The outrage isn't just because he is black. And im not going to bother re explaining it to a dumbass like you again considering its not going to register either way.

Leo

Never back peddled and I'm not saying I'm better than you or have a higher ground. Not once have I intentionally disrespected you. I'm just stating my disagreements in your views, because you interacted with my comment. I still believe you're going at this emotionally, otherwise we wouldn't be here. You're upset because there's 2 black fighters in a Japanese show and one of them is getting embarrassed. And it's not because he's black, but because of his actions.

Marcopopo350

@Leo well your previous post speaks for themselves. And yeah you have been pretty disrespectful. Especially in that you have been completely disregarding my experiences and everything I have been saying. its fine if you disagree. But its clear that you cant see past your fanboy love for baki an also there is a disconnect in that I'm speaking from my own racial perspective as well. And no I'm not upset, I made a statement and disagreed with your comment. That's like me saying you were upset because you wrote that xenophobic ass comment in the beginning. This is what I mean by you being a passive aggressive asshole disregarding what I'm saying. Even if him getting his ass whooped all the time were due to his actions. ( that were of course written by the author) it still doesn't change that I feel it was a bad look to do so for one of the few black fighters in your show.

TimmSchmimm

Damn people are so butthurt about this episode wtf, its not that deep XD. Pretty much every character so far got hyped up like crazy just to get destroyed and humiliated for no reason in other fights. Prisoner arc was the exact same, especially the last guy (vacuum martial art thingy) got 3 or more episodes of build up as the final boss who is actually about to kill the whole cast just to get slapped around like a little bitch on the floor begging and all that shit. Even after that his supposedly revenge arc was denied and he got shit on even further. Ali jr is not supposed to represent the usa or smth ppl in the comments are legit so butthurt and hurt on a peronsal level like damn.

TimmSchmimm

I dont think butthurt is the word, its more like "yo wake up its not that serious like damn chill". Maybe baffled or confused makes more sense if u wanna describe my reaction

Marcopopo350

I don't know bro, that is a bit hypocritical. Considering you came out the gate somewhat pressed over other peoples opinions. But yeah, I do somewhat feel you on what your saying and I'm guilty of it lol But you right at the end day this shit is just anime.

Prem Valecha

best episode F ali

Jarrell Marquis Lewis

Doppo's explanation was definitely poorly worded, but he was basically explaining that everyone in Baki's league are ready to fight regardless of the situation. Remember that in the Death Row arc, not only did they all agree to fight when and where ever the inmates pulled up, but several of them got seriously injured and either kept fighting or came for a run back while still recovering. They're basically showing Jr that if he wants to be able to fight Baki then he needs to either be strong enough to never get hurt or be able to recover quickly and keep fighting.

Joe Topside

Roshi felt that leg punch in his soul

Ougi

@marcopopo so ur telling me I should've looked up something that I had no prior knowledge about. How the fuck was I supposed to know to look it up if your mentioning of it was the first bit if info I became privy to? Thats like expecting someone to know about eulers formula before they make any statement relating to algebra. If its not something u hear about somewhere how are you ever supposed to know to look it up? Ur not making sense with that. It's like if u make a statement about geometry and I say "bro u don't even know what a mobius strip, now ulook like a dumbass for talking agout geometry without knowing that random aspect of it". And you're missing the point, Japan was at that time heavily xenophobic, yes that means they did not have black people, it also means they didn't like white people either. The logic is simple bro, if they don't like whites then obviously a white-perpetuated stereotype is gonna have a hard time spreading to and solidifying itself in the thoughts of the general public. Black or white, to a xenophobic its irrelevant since either way ur a "filthy foreigner". "Like how dense are you my guy?" Is what u said but it doesn't mean anything when it's coming from someone dense enough to not realise if they don't like whites, they're probably not gonna spread the whites words as if they were gospel.

Marcopopo350

@Ougi yes dumb fuck its that simple, and your lame ass is really coming back after 3 days to argue. After this shit been over. Talk about pathetic. And honestly if you didn't know about Emmet till, it just shows me that kids are even dumber these days then they were before. which is pretty sad. And my point was, were that you are speaking from a place ignorance, the fact that your still to stupid to see that keeps proving my point. Also your logic on japan is still retarded, like yeah they were racist against white people. Who gives a fuck? Were talking about black people. And not only that, but the Japanese have always been way more racist to black people then they are to white people. You should do some research on that as well. Also when did I say it was just a "white-perpetuated stereotype"? I'm guessing reading comprehension is also something you need to work on. Like if you don't think the Japanese had those same fears about black men like white people do. Then you are even more dense then I thought you were. And that's saying something. And again this keeps showing your ignorance. While people in japan are heavily xenophobic. They are still more accepting of people who have white skin. So try again. Lets re examine your idiotic bullshit once more "it doesn't mean anything when it's coming from someone dense enough to not realize if they don't like whites, they're probably not gonna spread the whites words as if they were gospel. " So that was your point, which I already previously refuted. I didn't realize I was dealing with a retard that cant infer that obviously its not just a white only thought process. Clearly lol And like I posted before. They still like whites a lot better then black people. So yeah instead of spending your time arguing with people on patreon. Why don't you do something better with your life like opening a book. Cause your clearly lacking even basic knowledge.

Ougi

@marcpopo "and your lame ass is really coming back after 3 days to argue. After this shit been over. Talk about pathetic" this applies to u just as much as it does me. Same with "instead of spending your time arguing with people on patreon. Why don't you do something better with your life like opening a book. Cause your clearly lacking even basic knowledge. " and maybe the Emmet till case is 'basic knowledge' where ur from but not me so when referring to me it being 'basic knowledge' is just incorrect. When it comes to the 'white-perpetuated stereotype' stuff, I initially didn't think that such a specific stereotype would pop up on it's own though that was my tunnel vision. I carried down the line of logic that a xenophobic society on one hand wouldn't rlly have those fears when the women themselves would also be xenophobic. I obviously failed to consider that on the other hand, the men would harbor those fears about black men too. I hyperfixated on a singular aspect and blanked out the others. Partially because I'm not neurotypical but also because I didn't stop and take a look back at the bigger picture. So u were partially correct when calling me Ignorant, in the sense that it wasn't a lack of thinking skills or knowledge that caused my ignorance but my tunnel vision and fixation on a singular part of the overall point, so my bad. Though your insistence on calling me retarded is kinda funny, u say it like it strengthens your point when it was plenty strong anyway. I just needed more time to really think about it. And before you try and retort to that last part with some shit like "but ur lame ass was silent for 3 whole days, u clrlcy had plenty of time to think about it. Just shows how retarded you are". I forgot this thread existed until earlier cus I was doing life shit. Its not that deep

Marcopopo350

@Ougi "this applies to u just as much as it does me" Except not really because the argument was already done like I said. How dumb are you bro lol Again even if its not knowledge where your from, then you should still refrain from speaking on if you have no knowledge lest you be called out on it. Like I did. Not knowing something isn't an excuse for ignorance. Especially when I already corrected you on it. And you still kept doubling down on that specific point. So your essentially finally admitting I was right. Well that's good. Still doesn't change the fact that you and I have both been pricks about this whole thing. And you also brought up that you aren't neurotypical, so I would have to assume your on the spectrum? I wont go into details, because I'm talking with an internet stranger. But I do have my issues as well when it comes to social matters. Point is if its something I don't understand. I either ask to get informed or I stay out of it. Untill I know what the hell I'm talking about. And naw, you were for sure speaking from a place in ignorance. Not out of maliciousness. But it was still ignorance of actual racial stereotypes and its history. And the only reason I called you retard ( besides my own social issues) I'm for sure not perfect. Was that you were kind of acting like a retard. But again my bad. I tend to get heated in debates when it feels like people are just ignoring my points. Its also not usual for people on the internet, especially on this for people to admit they were wrong. So this has kind of taken me by surprise. Also on that last bit, that's fair you were dealing with life shit. But its still weird for you to come back to a thread after three whole days or more to say some side shit. When the argument been over. But that's just how I feel about it.

Asterkampos

You have been a cunt since the start. Shut you fucking mouth and take your own advice, it's fucking pathetic. Doesn't help that you are also severely wrong.

Marcopopo350

@Asterkampos lol and what the fuck are you going to do if I don't you punk bitch? Exactly nothing, except to keep seething like the pussy you are. There is nothing more pathetic then keyboard warriors like you. If you got nothing to add to the convo. Then keep your own mouth shut, you little cunt.

Cjay26

I wish Lupa would stop whining about ali. Never seen what Parkinsons does to someone?

Whamz Rose

I also felt that knee shot 😔

Pneuma

When I scrolled to this episode I though "ugh this arc", glad to see the description agrees with me lmfaooo

Vincent Samuel Price

damn someone should have told ali they were jumping each other to the death a couple seasons ago lol.

Marcopopo350

@Ahiru. アヒル bruh you literally just got here and are commenting on a month old post lol take your own advice my guy

Marcopopo350

@Asterkampos yeah its hilarious that you're lame ass really took this long to respond. And that was it lol

Marcopopo350

@Novy Navarro I know this is late but Olivia is still know where near the top tiers in the baki universe when it comes to strength. And still regularly takes L's. Not as bad as Ali jr. But still really not that good. So there point isn't exatcly that moot.

Kermit

Damn... writers gave Jr. the Vegeta treatment. Heck, even Veteta's dad didn't beat his ass.

random citizen

ik im extremely late but im just binge watching these & I thought of it the same way but ALSO I think it was showing that the Hanmas are completely different than the other fighters, monsters fr.