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Vinland Saga 2x14 (Patreon)

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2023-04-11 22:30:56
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Einar was bout to get bodied

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Theo Vorster

For those who are interested in reading along with the manga, this episode adapted all of chapters 80 and 81. Some interesting bits of trivia for this episode: the scene where Sverkel talks about his and Ketil’s past is an anime original addition, in the manga after Arnheid questions whether she should go see Gardar again or not, Servkel just responds with saying he won’t blame Arnheid and that it’s her choice to make, while also apologizing that he can’t do anything to help her. There’s also an extra line of dialogue in the manga where Arnheid elaborates that the invaders/pillagers took (i.e. killed directly or by simply abandoning infants/children to the elements to perish i.e. infant exposure) her son from her so they could sell Arnheid for a higher price as an “unmarried” woman.

Fernando Perez

This show is so fucking good. The scene where Arnheid’s baby gets taken away was heart wrenching and we didn’t even know he existed until this episode. There’s something so human about the characters in this series.

Itanna

I’ll be honest I didn’t like the fact that Thorfinn held Einar back. I understand that he’s trying to keep him from making a mistake he might not come back from (taking a life) but still it felt off to me. Just because he’s decided to no longer fight doesn’t mean he gets to make that decision for others. At the end of the day everyone has different reasons for fighting. Plus Einar didn’t even have to kill anyone. A simple distraction could’ve helped too

YoungSalsa

They protect Arnheid only because she is the Masters sex-toy, she has no say and if she didn’t have to she wouldn’t. Ket knocked her up and now she will raise the child because she believes it will grant her a peaceful life, not because she wants to What a tragic life slaves live man

Ethan
>>106152258

You completely missed the fact that Einar would have to kill/escape from 3 guards, including Snake who is a problem, and become a runaway slave which we saw how it turned out last time. He's supposedly getting his freedom within the next week. Thorfinn was also preventing him from fucking that up too, along with the burden of killing people.

Itanna
>>106152258

But again he himself didn’t actually have to kill anyone, Gardar was strong enough to survive 3 on 1 with fox, lizard and the other guy. If Einar could at least distract fox then maybe they could’ve escaped. It was just a bit weird that Thorfinn wouldn’t let Einar make his own decision. No matter how nice Ketil is, Arnheid is still a slave which is horrible so they shouldn’t have any loyalty to him

zILovePelmeni _
>>106152258

bro einar wouldve been dead you forget hes a slave and if he betrays the farms they just kill him

Infinity

Damn snakes got them snake moves.

Magical Drinking
>>106152258

Einar would have got instantly killed by one of those two guys. Like even all the other questions of him being a slave, Snake or Gardar would have obliterated him.

Nathan
>>106152427

i think its also the fact that she doesn't want to lose another child to violence that can easily be avoided.

ogking31
>>106152258

What Einar was doing is reckless... Thorfinn even asked if he could kill a man for the first time. Einar knows this and is aware of it, and this is not factoring his strength in combat especially with a weaopon. Thorfinn who is in this new trajectory made a valid choice to stop more bloodshed.

Shakir
>>106152258

It isnt just cuz of murder. It was cuz even if Einer fought there is a 0% chance he survives. Stopping Einer from dying for a reason we dont even know yet is stupid and Thorfinn stopped him from it

Fizzy
>>106152258

Nigga what?, first of all einar would of got clapped with the quickness only worsening the situation, thorfinn didn't stop einar on the bases of him changing his ways buddy he literally told einar he ain't built like that, which is true einar isn't capable of killing a nigga without second thought.

BoxHead
>>106152258

nah bad take, Einar would have been killed for even retaliating and a bunch of niggas woulda jumped him.

Sergio
>>106152258

you’re not getting it. Einar has no business being their business. It’s a situation between them 3 (Snake, Gardar, and Arnheid). He’s trying to play hero for someone who doesn’t want to be saved (because she wants to stay and raise her kid on the way). this was thorifinn and Einar’s first time seeing gardar so why would they act on something they don’t know about. Thorfinn was trying to calm him because Einar would only make things worse for all of them. so no, thorfinn was smart.

Sergio

man i can’t wait for them to see ketil’s reaction to all this. it’s gonna be crazy

Osiris Cage
>>106152258

Got to think logically about the situation instead of emotionally my dude. Einar was also acting on emotion and was gonna end up dead and Arnheid would've still been a slave

Osiris Cage

Shiiid I would've been shook too. There was so much for her to process in that short amount of time. She was thinking that man was dead and then she has to explain their son is dead too. On top of explaining their home was pillaged.

Manny
>>106154472

You forgot the part where she was making love to her 'master' and is pregnant...

Greg Harrison

Thorfinn being the voice of reason and calm is big development.

Kory

Ketil would never harm her😤

Kenisha & Kim

i feel like her kid isnt dead like one day they will reunite maybe he went through what thorfinn went through

Knuckle's hair

Lmao why Lupa called Einar a simp i'm confused 😭?

Devin B (edited)

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2023-04-12 02:32:23 Idk cause usually in these times they usually kill the men and boys but you never know
2023-04-12 00:31:44 Idk cause in these times they usually kill the men and boys but you never know
>>106159552

Idk cause in these times they usually kill the men and boys but you never know

Devin B

Even before hearing Arnheid's backstory I still thought it wasn't a good idea for her to leave with Gardar cause there's literally nowhere for them to go and they would constantly be chased by Ketil's men, especially cause he not only killed one of his men but he took Ketil's "property"

Devin B
>>106152258

Thorfinn wasn't trying to make Einar's decision for him but rather he wanted him to actually look at the situation he was about to get himself in before he does anything and Einar understood it after he calmed down a bit.

Daniel Robb
>>106152258

If Garder was good enough to take on all three... why'd he lose to just Snake? Cmon now. Einar wouldve 100% had to kill Snake to get Garder free. That's cope, Thorfinn was smart.

Royal Sage

The Holy Spirit of The Simp was about to send Einar to Valhalla this episode 💀

Theo Vorster
>>106159552

No, the baby is definitely dead. Either they killed him on the spot or threw him to the elements to die by way of infant exposure.

Daniel Robb

Honestly laughed so hard when Sheera returned the -she's in shock- to Roshi there 😭

Trashthlete

I always appreciate the fact that Einar has shown a consistent and strong sense of justice for this entire season, but when it comes to Arnheid and Gardar, people oversimplify it to "simping."

Fernando Perez
>>106165519

Yeah not sure why people say he’s being a simp lmao. Arnheid is a good person and it’s not like she’s taking advantage of him or leading him on. What’s he supposed to do? Assert his dominance or whatever by killing Gardar and Ketil? Realistically Gardar’s the only way Arnheid was gonna escape the farm, which we’ve seen has been one of Einar’s main goals, if not his main goal. I respect him for putting her freedom over his own feelings on the matter.

Kevin Kovacs

Why is Lupa keeping calling Einar a simp? He clearly doesn't "simping" he just wants the best for her.. as he saying he would help to rescuse her husband.

Tsunami Wave
>>106154472

At least 5 differenct topics most people would spend days thinking of how to approach, and she didn't even have half a minute lmao.

Tsunami Wave
>>106152258

Would also like to mention that Gardar had no intentions of escaping until he killed Snake as Snake implied that he was Ketil. Einar would have HAD to get Snake killed for Gardar and Arnheid to escape. There's a non-zero chance he could stall or distract Snake long enough for Gardar to get a good hit in, but he himself would do nothing alone and even if he could what then?

Simple Name

Damn Ketil really did rape her, poor Arnheid

Nago
>>106165519

The termn simp has lost all it's meaning. Today it gets thrown at every male character that shows any sympathy for a women in a desperate attempt to be funny. Honestly it is rather beautiful that Einars feelings for Arnheid are so strong that his first impulse is trying to help her husband free her. Not feeling hurt, not feeling betrayed, just wanting to help Arnheid archiving her freedom regardless if she is with him or her husband, not trying to win her just as a prize on top of his freedom

Levi Blair
>>106159567

yeah its like saying you wanting what's best or at the very least not awful for someone you care about makes you a simp smh. Idk about Lupa or anyone else but I've got people id take that kind of action for and they would for me and we aren't simping on each other, its called giving a shit about those close to you.

Ezio

Thorfinn crying hearing her story, knowing he used to be one of the people who would raid villages like that, speaks volumes to the man he is becoming/has become.

Sauce Sorcerer
>>106178140

That was tragically beautiful ngl. You can really tell he's disgusted with the things he did in the past. Writers are going crazy with this season gyat

Sauce Sorcerer
>>106159552

I think the kid is definitely dead. I just don't see Vikings snatching a kid to raise it

Sauce Sorcerer
>>106152258

Thorfinn was saving Einar's life. He knows what kind of person Einar is on top of the fact he wouldnt have stood a chance against any of the fighters in that scenario. If Thorfinn wouldn't have held Einar back he would have just died in vain. Literally everyone in that situation were trained fighters except Einar and the Arnheid.

Arc

Everyone's decision made sense. - Snake was doing his job, protecting the farm and its property - Arnheid didn't want to go because she didn't recognize him anymore and she's pregnant with Ketil's child (Gardar might have killed the baby). - Einar is just in love and doesn't think. - Thorfinn didn't want to interfere because he knew that somebody HAS to die in this situation.

Skebaba (edited)

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2023-04-12 14:01:20 As you can see, based on the sword & the fact that Snake can READ (Latin/Greek too, IDK which was the Bible language in the 1000's but it's either of the 2), he seems to be an ex Varangian Guard (i.e the bodyguards of the Roman Emperor in Byzantine Empire) member, who were often made up of foreigners, and quite commonly Norsemen specifically, because they had no political ties to any of the local clans who might want to assassinate/benefit from the Emperor's clapping So yeah Snake would in theory be more properly Canute's bodyguard given his skill set, especially given how much larger the Byzantine Empire was vs the Norsebois' meagerass territories etc. He's essentially stronger than Askeladd, but w/ Thorfinn tier GTG FST speed
2023-04-12 11:34:36 As you can see, based on the sword & the fact that Snake can READ (Latin/Greek too, IDK which was the Bible language in the 1000's but it's either of the 2), he seems to be an ex Varangian Guard (i.e the bodyguards of the Roman Emperor in Byzantine Empire) member, who were often made up of foreigners, and quite commonly Norsemen specifically, because they had no political ties to any of the local clans who might want to assassinate/benefit from the Emperor's clapping So yeah Snake would in theory be more properly Canute's bodyguard given his skill set, especially given how much larger the Byzantine Empire was vs the Norsebois' meagerass territories etc. He's essentially stronger than Askeladd, but w/ Thorfinn tier GTG FST speed

As you can see, based on the sword & the fact that Snake can READ (Latin/Greek too, IDK which was the Bible language in the 1000's but it's either of the 2), he seems to be an ex Varangian Guard (i.e the bodyguards of the Roman Emperor in Byzantine Empire) member, who were often made up of foreigners, and quite commonly Norsemen specifically, because they had no political ties to any of the local clans who might want to assassinate/benefit from the Emperor's clapping So yeah Snake would in theory be more properly Canute's bodyguard given his skill set, especially given how much larger the Byzantine Empire was vs the Norsebois' meagerass territories etc. He's essentially stronger than Askeladd, but w/ Thorfinn tier GTG FST speed

Dkai

Episode was straight heat. I want to point out the significance of Thorfinn visually upset hearing Arnheids story not only can you tell how disgusted he feels of the situation and cycle of violence, that he was once of them the, he also understands how Arnheid feels having someone you love being taken from you by greed. Powerful stuff here I love the direction of these episodes so far!

Skebaba
>>106152258

Yeah based on circumstantial evidence Snake seems to be ex Varangian Guard (the bodyguards for the Roman Emperor of the Byzantine Empire), so even Canute's bodyguard Wulf or w/e the fuck he's called would likely get clapped by Snake, simply because of the sheer scale difference between Norsecucks & the fucking BYZANTINE EMPIRE. So Einar would be fucked even if Snake somehow had 1 hand tied behind his back

Itanna
>>106152258

Ngl I didn’t expect to get clapped in the comments like this 😂🤣

Skebaba
>>106152427

Especially since she lost her OG child because of the retarded husband, too (they know that raiders do raids in random villages all the time during those ages, yet left the village DEFENSELESS (WTF bro))

Nabi

finally

Jigga Man

Einar playing 4D Chess. He knows that nigga dying but he gotta dramatically cap for the chick before that. Slides right in after Snake executes the husband.

L.C.

That piano joke had me dead lupa lmao

Noel Cruz

The piano dude lmaoooo Shout out to the composer for killing it the entire show tbh

Ghastly

Some comments made in this episode. Those who know, know. This is going to be a crazy season

Bad Karma
>>106159552

Yeah it isn't as clear as it is in the manga, but the baby is very VERY much implied to be dead.

KenniB (edited)

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2023-04-16 21:24:23 Lol As funny as the "she was in shock" moment was, Arnheid was in shock. So much stuff was happening at once, that she didn't know how to process it all. She definitely was afraid of Gardar cause he was different than she remembered, but also the whole situation they're in was probably weighing down on her all at once too. Her husband is alive who she probably thought was dead showed up and he thinks their child is with her when he's been gone. And plus she's pregnant with the master's child. Definitely not because she wanted to. She's a slave so that means she had no rights and is the property of Ketil so it really doesn't matter if he cares about her or not. She's still his "property" as disgusting as that is. This season has been extremely good with the different characters arcs and making them feel human and sympathetic. Snake was just doing job, Thorfinn was being a voice a reason to Einar and Einar as we have seen him throughout this season, has a very strong sense of justice so of course he wouldn't be okay with just watching this happen to the woman he's come to care about despite him being really reckless about it and it not being his business. Anyway, sorry for the long essay lol! Great reaction as always you guys!❤
2023-04-16 19:11:22 Lol As funny as the "she was in shock" moment was, Arnheid was in shock. So much stuff was happening at once, that she didn't know how to process it all. She definitely was afraid of Gardar cause he was different than she remembered, but also the whole situation they're in was probably weighing down on her all at once too. Her husband is alive who she probably thought was dead showed up and he thinks their child is with her when he's been gone. And plus she's pregnant with the master's child. Definitely not because she wanted to. She's a slave so that means she had no rights and is the property of Ketil so it really doesn't matter if he cares about her or not. She's still his "property" as disgusting as that is. This season has been extremely good with the different characters arcs and making them feel human and sympathetic. Snake was just doing job, Thorfinn was being a voice a reason to Einar and Einar as we have seen him throughout this season, has a very strong sense of justice so of course he wouldn't be okay with just watching this happen to the woman he's come to care about despite him being really reckless about it and it not being his business. Anyway, sorry for the long essay lol! Great reaction as always you guys!❤ This was another great episode of Vinland Saga!

Lol As funny as the "she was in shock" moment was, Arnheid was in shock. So much stuff was happening at once, that she didn't know how to process it all. She definitely was afraid of Gardar cause he was different than she remembered, but also the whole situation they're in was probably weighing down on her all at once too. Her husband is alive who she probably thought was dead showed up and he thinks their child is with her when he's been gone. And plus she's pregnant with the master's child. Definitely not because she wanted to. She's a slave so that means she had no rights and is the property of Ketil so it really doesn't matter if he cares about her or not. She's still his "property" as disgusting as that is. This season has been extremely good with the different characters arcs and making them feel human and sympathetic. Snake was just doing job, Thorfinn was being a voice a reason to Einar and Einar as we have seen him throughout this season, has a very strong sense of justice so of course he wouldn't be okay with just watching this happen to the woman he's come to care about despite him being really reckless about it and it not being his business. Anyway, sorry for the long essay lol! Great reaction as always you guys!❤ This was another great episode of Vinland Saga!

Kalas Wing

Ahem . . . . I am the storm that is approaching Provoking black clouds in isolation.

ok
>>106154472

@Manny making love is a hilarious way to put it. she was being raped.

ok
>>106168643

bro he has no idea what is happening on the screen it's straight cut him some slack. let him exist within a constant state of clapland and misunderstanding

ok

Not sure why this is one of the few shows you don't use the official subs for. It often leads to confusion. edit: like that ending speech of Arnheid's about her husband being the storm came off way more callous than it was supposed to. damn

ok

Why are you all confused on einar's reaction? His struggle has been about Arnheid's freedom, her literal husband comes to free her and he is taken to be executed and her chance at freedom is gone. Why is it confusing that he cares about this entire thing? Furthermore, are the subtleties in Arnheid's behavior not clear? Like, it was a mystery whether she cared about her husband who was enslaved and who she hadn't seen for years? It's obviously not that simple...

rayman
>>107716952

Another comment about official subs and I'm so confused. Where are yall watching where the subs are different? I thought Crunchyroll usually had the most normal subs, and their subs are the exact same as Crunchyroll.