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Godrick

"rise to that goku status"... bro are we watching the same shows?? cuz idk how you can even attempt to compare those two characters

Gabriel Souza

Starlight manage to be a b*tch in every season, that's impressive

Jericho Fostse

Finally first this is the best episode yet!😂🤦🏾‍♀️

Big Daddy Dre

A train hit bruh with that kabal special from MK 😂😂

Raider

HERE WE FUCKING GO

Ryder LS

Sinister Sex: Herogasm

The Endless

THIS IS HEROGASMMMM BABBBBYYYYY

neoplansc

best episode yet

Scott Tyson

Hour 0 gang lets goooooooo!

Julio Morales

wait... they dont know about the imagine video? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 oh god

Thomas_Stilinski

this episode was way outta pocket lmao

EZ

Can't wait to get out of work and see this absolutely faded!

Chai

Fire Reaction

Mozart Waddell

Yo Lupa how was CEO? I've seen your stories. Did you win any tournaments/events?

Sera

Feel how you will about Butcher.. but that mf's a G. Most interesting character right beside Homelander.

Robert L

Someone pointed out to me Homelander can probably hear Black Noir. His voice might be fucked but Homelander can still hear him with his super hearing.

The Pebble

All those aqua man fucking fish jokes makes you question...Just maybe....

Sera

They basically confirmed he does in Peacemaker

Kingmakaii

Bro I can’t with black noir funny asf bro seen and heard solider boy and got the fuck up out of there LMAO

J

Homelander having whole green goblin moments

Legion

The video at the beginning was a parody of Gal Gadot's Imagine video with a bunch of celebrities at the beginning of the pandemic. Soldier Boy saying that he'll continue to support hisbrave Mujahideen brothers is lowkey hilarious when in real life, the Mujahideen turned into the Al Qaeda that did 9/11

JJ

I honestly get surprised at the amount of people who didnt get the reference lmfao

Ray Mullings

This episode was crazy

Realistboi

Where’s steins gate

Realistboi

I will have nightmares if don’t see it uploaded today

Mortal

The Boys, Steins Gate and Summertime Rendering all currently exporting, give me a bit! (take a chill pill)

Reckless Company

I wanna see The Bad Room like what could be in that room that fuck homelander up when he was younger

Argent6

overlord this week? :eyes:

Zaouli HD

Homelander talking to himself gave me Green Goblin vibes

DxShadow

the part at the beginning with them singing, they were making fun of Gal Gadot (who plays Wonder Woman), she was singing that same song with a bunch of other celebrities about the pandemic.

Jose silva

Homelander the Goat he held his own 1v3

Omar Bautista

Anya: Let's go see the octopus The Deep: Herogasm Thank you The Boys for ruining octopuses

Andrew W

Yo Sheera nailing the "framed" riddle! First time I've heard any reactor get it and she didn't miss a beat.

J. J.

"This shit is real life South Park bro" LOLOLOL

MasterDjYeet

God starlight pisses me off with the hate to soldier boy, basically comparing him to homelander without knowing the full story. Like she already seen what he did to Alex, how can she not be on team “ do what it takes” and then maybe try and get soldier boy to pay for his crimes later, even if he didn’t want to, I don’t think he’d go on a killing spree like homelander threatened. If so he would’ve killed M.m right away

Terry King Jr

Watch next episode be a flashback to Soldier Boy's betrayal to balance out this all major shit happening this episode. I'm a get blue balls.

slipHAZARD

I'm not going to lie I was a little underwhelmed by this episode. For as much as Amazon and Comic readers hyped up "Herogasm". I really don't think it pushed any limits we haven't already seen on The Boys all that much. Still a great episode but with all the hype behind it, it was a bit of a let down to be honest

Alrxander Willis

NO SAUSE IN THE BAG🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Ranginald Vagel

Episode was solid gold but I think I like the Goblin scene the best. Also fun fact, the guy who came on MM was Eric Kripke the showrunner. Dude came out from behind the scenes just to be the guy who nuts on MM

Robert L

I don't think TNTs powers shut off. I think it didn't work because they hadn't done it for years. They said that the second before they vaporized.

Kurumi

S3 really is peak fiction

Kisuke01

I love Homelander's baby rage face it stays on 24/7

Thomas_Stilinski

sheera idk if the man having a major heart attack is gonna be able to get out of the road lol

Benton

Bro homelanders a whole ass green goblin with that mirror scene lol

Trying

When the twins give up Noir, I don’t think he was the mastermind behind Soldier Boy’s kidnapping. I think a young Edgar was the mastermind, and Noir was the fall guy/instigator. In Grace’s flashback of Nicaragua, when we see Noir’s face reveal, the first thing that caused Grace to eavesdrop on that conversation at all was she heard Edgar say “Is everyone on board?” to which Noir says “Everyone except Gunpowder,” then they immediately start the conversation we see, which Grace doesn’t have any interest in which causes her to stop listening. This explains why so far everyone on the original team knew why he was angry and gave up some directly relevant info except for Gunpowder to Billy when all he knew was there was a cover up and they worked with the CIA.

EmoBurrito

If A Train really died, well then he went out like a G. But I'm not gonna go as far as to say he was redeemed lol. He was still a piece of shit, but he did do some cool shit at the end. Best episode of The Boys so far.

Robert L

Soldier Boy can't beat Homelander 1v1. He will probably fuck up trying to go against him without Butcher and Hughie. Or my prediction might still come ture with Soldier Boy joining Vought with Homelander. I just can't see the guy who killed so many people being the hero to take out Homelander. Soldier Boy is fucked up.

Psi47

If you notice, it took three girls to jump Stormfront. She got away. It took three of the boys to fight Homelander and he also got away.

Omar Bautista

If Soldier Boy lives to see season 4, you guys should watch his origin story on Supernatural

Danny

This isnt good because the only reason why Homelander was struggling wasnt because it was 1v3 but rather he was shocked at Butcher and Hughies powers since I dont believe he knew about Temp V. Now that they werent able to kill him even after jumping him m1v3, he will be prepared nxt time.

Psi47

Also, I don't think Homelander was losing his powers. People only lose their powers after they get hit by Soldier Boy's cyclops beam. I think the Tnt twins little beam fizzled out because like they said, they hadnt done it in years and it may have something to do with their personal connection. Since they're always at odds now, it probably messed with their powers. In Homelander's case, his eyes glow red whenever he feels hatred. His struggle to break free using all his strength is whats making his eyes glow, not because he was losing his powers. At least, that's how I've been interpreting it

Brant Barber

Literally no one in this is a hero the one who takes out homelander has to be fucked up

Psi47

More evidence for that is Soldier Boy literally can't control his powers. Plus, he had just used it minutes ago. It takes at least half a day to charge it. He used it during the day in Midtown when he blacked out. Then at night to kill Crimson countess. I highly doubt he was at full power. If his beam didn't just outright negate any powers around him, then Butcher, A-Train, the shrinking guy and Love Sausage all would have lost their powers too, but none of them did.

Asad Khabir (edited)

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2023-11-27 05:56:59 The Talibans didn't do 9/11. Al Qaeeda did.
2022-06-28 01:56:51 The Talibans didn't do 9/11. Al Qaeeda did.

The Talibans didn't do 9/11. Al Qaeeda did.

Robert L

The "Herogasm" was seeing Homie and Billy finally fight. Even on an App they are not going to show full hardcore sex. It would turn off ads and fans.

Asad Khabir (edited)

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2023-11-27 05:56:59 'basically comparing him to homelander without knowing the full story.' Mate did you miss the part where Soldier Boy throw a car throw MM's grandfather?
2022-06-28 01:59:00 'basically comparing him to homelander without knowing the full story.' Mate did you miss the part where Soldier Boy throw a car throw MM's grandfather?

'basically comparing him to homelander without knowing the full story.' Mate did you miss the part where Soldier Boy throw a car throw MM's grandfather?

heaps

The way y'all hiding at 31:07, I felt that 😅

Ara Araragi

They showed/talked about it in the earlier seasons. Homelander's childhood was just constant observation and training in a sterile environment. As a toddler he was kept in a blank white room with nothing but a blanket and a target on the wall to use for laser eye practice.

Asad Khabir (edited)

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2023-11-27 05:56:59 I mean then Butcher shouldn't take out Homelander either. He is almost just as bad as Soldier Boy
2022-06-28 02:02:14 I mean then Butcher shouldn't take out Homelander either. He is almost just as bad as Soldier Boy

I mean then Butcher shouldn't take out Homelander either. He is almost just as bad as Soldier Boy

Bosastar

Homelander gonna come back with prep time😂💀

J. J.

Yeah it's clear they were scared to say who the real person was (likely Edgar) since he's the most dangerous person to piss off at Vought and probably gave them all that money to buy their nice house after they sold out SB.

J. J.

It's more likely SB ran out of juice after the first beam, took too long and allowed Homelander to push through.

losinmymindd_

When they finish the boys do y’all think they will start umbrella academy

Alloway

Good episode, although Herogasm was kind of overhyped for me.

PolarToni

"it takes at least half a day to charge it" Head cannon

Yanpo

Watch Homelander get rid of his cape after this episode.

Ara Araragi

If they're gonna keep going with that parallel, then I'm expecting Victoria's daughter to take out Homelander with whatever power she got, but she'll also end up killing her mom in the process because she can't control it.

Isaac

Think the point was to overhype it, so you're expecting that to be the craziest shit in the episode and get completely caught off guard by all the other shit that goes down

WookieDrawls

A - Train gave Blue Hawk that Kabal fatality 😂🔥🔥🔥 well deserved

TrixieTurner

Lol all the talk about the casualties from a fight between homelander and soldier boy and it was just a regular ass fist fight.

Art of Trolling

we ain’t goin talk about the fact it took 3 of them to hold homelander. It’s on sight next episode 😂

Yanpo

He died as he lived, doing something for himself. This time it was for revenge. Thankfully, revenge can sometimes result in justice.

Mr. Glasses

It's finally here!

Yanpo

Longest superhero origin story ever written. I'm still waiting for the super hero called "Man of Letters" to show up, played by Jared Padalecki.

sotonye ogan

Yall were not fucking with the temp v shit before but the second they were jumping homelander it got yall hyped huh💀

Devin B

He still doesn't know about Soldier Boy being able to take powers away so at least they still have that up their sleeve. Also Butcher and Hughie can prepare as well cause just the three of them were able to almost get Homelander so they're probably gonna find more people to help.

Psi47

"Head canon" No, it was my interpretation of what's been happening. The evidence to support that idea was shown by Soldier Boy literally struggling to activate the beam when they held Homelander down bruh lol we'll see if I'm right next episode

Anthony Argueta

well temp v is probably slowly killing them but don't mean they can't enjoy the hype

JxdonRA

I don't know for sure but I'm pretty sure homelander's powers didn't go anywhere he was blinking so you couldn't see the red

Devin B

Why would he join up with Vought after being betrayed by them? They made it clear that his team and more than likely Stan was the reason for Russians taking him.

Devin B

Temp V is the only reason they were able to get that close to getting him though.

Patrick Iizuka

you don't lose your powers until you're hit with the beam

Nivar Woods

Lot of people are wondering if Soldier Boy was in a weakened state though, since he'd just let off a massive beam before the fight.

L.C.

So what you are saying is all I have to do is pay you and I could bust on your face? Where do I sign up>

Emmett Diggs

lupa ass always crying

Carlos

I'm more scared of Homelander with each of his failings. Man is already a monster but he's gonna get soooooo much worse now that his ego is completely fucked.

marcus

even still he only did the "right thing" when something bad happened to him. He aint car when he ran thru heugh old girl.

Victor

MasterDjYeet I am not sure about it bro, I mean MM literally told Annie that Soldier Boy threw a car into his grandfather. Now I think he didn't intentionally kill anyone, but man you need to think twice before doing that. Like who th did that just for impressing others, like if a family was having dinner there, how many would you kill?. Until now, Soldier gave me the vibe that although he did some fuckup shit, he wasn't as bad as Homelander. But also that doesn't change what he did, the damage was done regardless of him being aware of it or not. Being ignorant doesn't justify for what he did bro.

Robert L

I was thinking they both have a common enemy. It was most likely Stan Edgars plan to get rid of Soldier Boy. He and Homelander will both hate him.

dave quinn

Dude Homelander powers weren't getting drained , he closed his eyes straining to get 3 dudes off his back.

Kwaku Afari

Lmao when ya'll were blocking the view of the camera at the Frenchie scene, I did the same. I was expecting something bad to happen.

L.C.

What the heck made you guys think the powers got screwed up before the beam hit them? That came out of nowhere lol. You literally have to be hit with the beam

Devin B

I would say that's possible only if Homelander didn't give a fuck about Vought. Also based on their personalities they would probably be fighting over who's number 1

Mason Dragneel

Y’all should check out umbrella academy on Netflix!!! Season 3 just came out and it’s such a good show!

Gilthwixt

Honestly best way to close out his character arc IMO. He finally regretted his actions at the very last minute then got killed by his own revenge plan. Poetic justice in multiple ways.

Zephyrs

Homelander talking to himself in the mirror is an homage to the Green Goblin scene from the original spiderman

Infinity

I mean lowkey tho she throwing soldier boy under the bus but the man isnt meaning to kill everyone he just fucked up from russia.

Yanpo

If you haven't already. Ya'll should check out Omni-man vs Homelander

tri music

Unpopular opinion but idc I like homelander and I still think before Hughie came into the fight homelander was winning.

Ledish

Homelander's definitely stronger, but you can also see that he's not as skilled at fighting as Soldier Boy and Butcher. Too used to winning easily through brute force, so never spent much time practicing technique, I'm guessing.

lyssa

Nice

Noah

It's heavily implied he never cared acting as "hero" either. Payback throwing him to Russians, and the stuff with MM.

Derpatron731

I was DYING when Homelander had that mirror scene, mans is really turning into green goblin

Joey Zero

3 on 1 and Lupa still called Homelander a pussy for running lol

Darius

No sinister sex joke?!

Argo2Unitard

He's not just fucked up from Russia, the mans through a car into MMs grandpa long before he got taken.

ApplePieOG

I hate Annie/Starlight. She's being so selfish. Anything happens and she goes "I this.." "I that..." She's not once tried to put herself in Hughie's shoes, but has no problem sshitting on him. Ma'am your boyfriend has a clear drug problem and some mental shit to work through. HELP HIM. SUPPORT HIM. So stupid..

YungZeus

The Bill Cosby bit is too hilarious, lmao. MM and Starlight are clowns, especially MM.

Crown Clown

This was a great episode! The comic book version of Herogasm is even worst than what the show could do with the "Herogasm Arc". Stop reading here is you don't want to get disgusted but in the comic, there's a scene where some supes are rolling up some powder to smoke. The powder is dead fetus they obtained from an abortion at a clinic mixed with Queen Maeve Vagina juice... I think this is worst thing I remember... Oh and the supe who turned into a dog (or an actual dog maybe) just right before sex.... yea... I was never the same after reading it.

HollowedSlayer

You guys don't remember that cringe ass video of celebrities singing Imagine during the Covid lockdowns?

Randle Dandle

I don't think people really grasp how terrifying soldier boy must be to homelander, bulletproof your whole life and then one day a guy shows up with a gun.

ErenY

Proves that unpopular opinions are unpopular for a reason.

tri music

Thx for taking the time our your o so busy day to respond to a comment that also says IDC

Argo2Unitard

I am honestly shocked you guys thought Annie would think Hughie was there for the orgy lmao. She's literally there to find the twins before Soldier Boy, of course she would know why Hughie is there.

slipHAZARD

lol well I wasn't expecting them to show full hardcore sex. But considering we started off this season with a dude literally walking inside another dudes dick.... lol all I am saying is, for the previous week even in the comments here people were like "aw man next week is going to be wild" "next episode will be crazy" same goes for random youtube videos hyping Herogasm up. Again I thought it was a great episode just a bit of a letdown given the hype that's all

Ledish

Not really fair to MM... dude's suffering severe trauma and feels betrayed by his friends, he's not thinking straight.

William

Garth Ennis... really needs someone to tell him to slow down sometimes, huh.

Yanpo

He means the very specific "half a day". If he does have to recharge, it could very well just be 10 minutes, and it could also very well be that he only has to recharge at all after he blows his entire load during a Panic Attack.

Arc

Funniest shit about Tiny Guy is that Homelander has super hearing - he knew he was stepping on him.

William

I hope Love Sausage is okay, that dick was in bad shape.

Oliver

Just rewatched the fight and his eyes did not flicker he just blinked for a sec

John Cedar

Man I can't fucking wait for Little Nina to die, I hate her more than Homelander at this point, like how you hate Umbridge more than Voldemort. May it be painful and hilarious. The way she relishes in how she abused Frenchie, and tells everyone that he actually wanted it, it is just a specific brand of evil that I despise more than anything. Also, I'm annoyed at the stupid pills that the screenwriters made MM take this episode. The man has been researching supes and Soldier Boy his entire life; he knows exactly what can and can't kill them. He knows his gun and his fists will do literally nothing to Soldier Boy. And he has a daughter, so he clearly wants to stay alive. So idk why they basically gave him a death wish this episode, because he didn't have one before.

John Cedar

Or put herself in the shoes of all the random civilians that will be collateral if she reveals too much and Homelander goes berserk. She is being far too reckless with the truth and not looking at the situation seriously. Supes (especially Homelander) are like a goddamn nuclear bomb just waiting to go off. She needs to be more careful.

Mari

You have to be hit by soldier boy beam to get your power’s taken away, and Homelander eyes wasn’t flickering btw, he was just blinking

YungZeus

Dude is adamant that he can do something to soldier boy without powers and tried to throw hands with a V’d up Butcher, even after the bat broke against him. He’s just gonna get himself killed all because of stubbornness.

Mari

He did 😂 all Homelander did was blink

Mari

I would’ve called him a pussy too😂 He’s “ on the top of the food chain right” he shouldn’t have no problem fighting 3 people 😂

xinyi deng

whats black noir power ?

John Cedar

Feel free to give any kind of argument as to why my take is "ridiculous". Homelander literally said he would wipe out New York for fun. Starlight is playing with peoples' lives. Turn your brain on, thx.

Reckless Company

Also is it possible that someone took control of soldier boy mind in midtown or am i overthinking

Aaron Gauntt

Poor guy went from love sausage to smoked sausage

olle spengler

calling homelander a pussy when they fought him in a 3v1 bruh

olle spengler

shut up loser, hes right, yall overhyped soldier boy so much and homelander held his own in a 3v1, put some respect on his name

John Cedar

Homelander should be able to just pulp all 3 of them into a blood smoothie, but he has never had to learn how to fight, so he was sloppy and inefficient with his punches. It's unclear what the upper limit of his powers are, but he is supposed to be special. He was created in a lab and fed more Compound V than anyone else; he's supposed to be the Superman stand-in, even though he's nowhere near Superman. It's supposed to be an insurmountable task to take him down, even with someone like Soldier Boy. And he is always talking about how no one can stand up to him, how it would be futile. So yeah, a bit of a pussy move to fly away in the first real fight he's ever had.

sotonye ogan

If I see starlight trying to use her bling bling eyes to threathen somebody levels ahead of her again I might lose.

slipHAZARD

I think it's close to like Captain America, enhanced strength, reflexes and etc...

slipHAZARD

I think it's just literally having PTSD/Flash Backs to when he's being tortured. Kind of like when Bruce Banner gets angry he cant control/stop The Hulk from coming out.

DANIEL PEEDAH

That’s the whole point, he has OCD that started with a fixation on sorting out his mental quandary with soldier boy, it doesn’t matter if he has a daughter or not, he was always going to end up like this. The reason he won’t take the super syrum , his OCD, and the reason he was willing to fight soldier boy are the same, he wants everything to be in a set order, at this point his heads telling him he has to fight soldier boy it has nothing to do with logic. If he was completely logical, his OCD would never be a factor

John Cedar

Yeah that's not what OCD does. It doesnt eliminate your self preservation or make you stupid. Needing to check the burners every night to put your mind at rest is not the same category of behavior as abandoning all hope and basically trying to commit suicide by supe. I have way too much respect for MM's intelligence to believe he would just lose all reason if there is literally no chance to accomplish what he wants. If he had a plan to do something to Soldier Boy, or took the Temp-V, then you might have a point, but he's a regular ass dude with a glock. OCD doesn't make you forget you're a squishy human that can die at any moment.

Victor

So the thing about Soldier Boy’s blast beam, he can use it but it automatically releases when he hears the Russian song? Like it is an activation code? Please don’t let Butcher realize this, or else he will give SD airpods and play the damn song himself.

Stanley Labissiere

Bro chalk it up to a desire for revenge for the man who killed his whole family. How is that so difficult to believe?

John Cedar

Because he can't take revenge. You deciding to pull a gun on a person who wronged you in the world we live in is not at all the same thing as pulling a gun on a supe in this show. It is futile, and I'm sorry, but nothing could make me so blind as to forget that the revenge I desperately need won't happen because the mf is bulletproof. It makes about as much sense as shooting at a ghost. That's just...not how you kill ot even hurt him, and everyone knows that.

Victor

And the scene when Homelander escaped, since Soldier Boy beam only affects other supe power when it contacts with them (many comments above mentioned it already), which also mean the boys powers were not weakened at that point, how could he get out from their grasp? Was it a sudden burst of power when he desperately tried to escape or… Although it might sound crazy at this point, but I think Butcher loosened his hold at that very moment to let Homelander go so Hughie won’t die. He did ask Hughie to run away and he also saw him as his brother Lenny from the previous episode, so I think it is not out of the realm of possibility now.

Shado

I don't think being in the vicinity of Soldier Boy's is enough to lose your powers. I think he needs to hit you for it to work. A-Train still had his speed after the blast, so did Butcher. I don't think Homelander's eyes were flickering, I think he literally just blinked.

Mr.PTMF

There's a big difference between fighting 3 people and fighting 3 people with powers, 2 of which have powers that are almost as strong as yours.

Radoras

Don't believe their powers were weakening - Solder Boy was still winding up his blast (not as quick as e.g. the eye rays) & even 3v1 they were struggling to hold him down, think he just broke the hold long enough to fly away... more scared what Homelander will do now - that's the first time he really was threatend & he was a monster even before he had to worry about himself

Quinton Campbell

Oh now y'all dont have a problem with the temp V after seeing Homelander get the hands 😂

Chuzo

he has regeneration just not as strong and he ages suppeerrrr slow

Alejandro Rodriguez

This was an amazing portrayal of OCD it really does feel like you don’t have a choice in what you’re doing and if you don’t your worst fears will come true I would wash my hands till they cracked and bled as a kid and knew it was fucked but I couldn’t make myself stop Laz Alonso killing that role

Phroug

This is another one of those episodes where the writers really think i'm going to give a shit about the casualties. I do not care that Homelander got away, I do not care that everyone's relationships are in shambles, I got to sit in front of my computer at 5 in the morning and watch Homelander get jumped. I'm satisfied

retrocalie

I love it when people try to logic human behavior in stories, bro we can’t even logic that shit in real life. Humans do shit for emotional reasons against their judgement ALL THE TIME in reality.

john segun doe

I think ROshi LUpa ANd SHeera would love Dean Winchester. Any chance a SUpernatural reaction could ever be a thing?

Isaac

A Train is trash but the legit apology got me. He finally, actually said he was sorry and meant it. It sucks it look that long but that's how it is with some people. They'll never mean it til something similar happens to them.

John Cedar

I apply logic to characters and shows who have previously displayed logic. Sorry, "just don't think about it" is not good enough for me, I believe in the screenwriters to make something convincing.

Isaac

Also, MM is gonna need to take a pregnancy test after getting blasted like that. No protection.

retrocalie

Here’s your logic Soldier Boy personally has a hand in MM’s trauma and the murder of his family and fucked him up for life, therefore he acts out when confronted with SB because he’s a special case for MM. I know I know you’re stone cold and in the same position you would never act the same way, but imagine if it wasn’t you, which is the actual job of a screenwriter btw.

rickie woodson

thing is the "trash supes" that were there that we know of were only like 5 of over 20+ people. cant go "well fuck em all since those five were there"............sigh no empathy. i dont get it

Devon Joseph

Hughie literally made those decisions himself. Hughie has been consistently lying and moving the lines that he stands on. He was complacent in why 12 people died just now, and they didn't even get Homelander. He was told by Butcher taking temp-V is bad, he was told by MM taking that shit was bad, then he told by Starlight taking that shit would be bad...and he still takes it. She is spittin, not shittin, Hughie may have valid insecurities but that does make it right to use those insecurities to leverage to justify he and by extension, Butcher and Soldier Boy's actions. Especially since she has been consistent with keeping the high ground and had the expectation that Hughie would too which is ultimately why she chose to be with him in the first place.

Lamaree Jackson

Hate that most of the “good guys” in this show are just a bunch of Vegetas with Starlight trying to rise to that Goku status. Surrounded by assholes—except MM—just doing evil shit with like one good thing thrown in so the ends justify the means of them running around for revenge. And that’s all they want. Hughie with helpless bs. He seemed super helpful the first two seasons with no powers 🤷🏾‍♂️

The Pebble

Because all the Supes there were killing prostitutes through sex and have probably killed and lied like all the other Vought supes. Your lack of "slightly more than shallow thinking" is what I don't get.

XNobodyx

This show is like about scum and villainy though, and about most of the 'good guys' stooping down to that level to win or already truly being at the level in the first place. (Butcher, Frenchie, Hughie this season). Frenchie is like an amazing guy but he is also a contract killer and an extremely heavy druggy. This show is not about being pretty and righteous. It's about a group of gritty people with bad upbringings and loose morals attempting to do the right thing and ultimately (hopefully) make the world a better place. Kimiko is a child soldier whose killed who knows how many people, but we know she's not bad. I like that this show takes a very different approach on our 'real heroes' and how they are, vs. the 'superheroes.' (The bad guys in this story)