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Emergency Family Meeting | Mushoku Tensei Ep 4 (Patreon)

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Paul is trash

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Egrassa
>>57155125

Be a man and don't cheat you idiot, rub one out if you can't control your dick

vanity

I don’t know why the community likes Paul he’s a piece of shit

eastbaynick

Paul needs like 100 bonks

Zana

HE IS TRASH

Halibel

Paul got fisted

danny

that intro tho lmfaoo

John Jacob

My notification showed me just the beginning “Emergency Family Mee....”. I thought something was wrong but glad it’s not

Alex Omega

Paul is beyond trash he is a whole dumpster. Lillia isn't shit either imo.

MitensuraTensho (edited)

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2021-07-09 03:44:46 dawg 😭😭
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>>57139469

dawg 😭😭

Zana

I was so uncomfortable watching this episode not gonna lie. paul have the right to just walk away and bang his wife but noooooo. fucking trash.

Devin B

If an ex bum is calling someone trash then he is definitely trash

Ranginald Vagel

Without TV or the Internet best entertainment is sex apparently Also hol up, Rudy was just tryna save Lillia's horny ass, revenge had nothing to do with it. If Lillia didn't do anything wrong she doesn't get kicked out.

DaeShawn

They are that much closer to “Turning Point” it’s so close 🔥

Reign

the amount of complete mentally ill weirdos in comments defending Paul raping women is disturbing.

Sebastian Stróż

There seems to be some confusion about what Rudy said. He made up the story to put the whole blame on Paul and it isn't a revenge on his part but at the same time he doesn't feel sorry for him as its Paul's fault.

Solatic Syot
>>57141148

He didn't rape anyone though the translation is off, and that wouldn't even make any sense. Their relationship and history wouldn't be as it is, and the delivery of that line isn't remotely conveying of something like that.

Solatic Syot

Just for the record the translation is awful and Paul didn't "assault" her like what you think.

MackeyMoose
>>57141148

He never raped anyone. Rudy made up a story to basically say it wasn't her fault but Pauls.

Devin B
>>57141192

Yeah Rudy just wanted to shift Zenith's anger for Lilia all towards Paul and make it seem like she didn't have a choice in the matter cause even Zenith was conflicted about kicking Lilia out of the house and Rudy gave her an excuse not to.

Bob
>>57141148

The fact that people defend this show at all is disturbing.

Coco
>>57139431

I think its because he's a complete scumbag, but somehow manages to be an okay dad.

Alan

Paul is big trash

Oliverson

Everyone thinking Paul is trash after this... Paul: THIS ISNT EVEN MY FINAL FORM

Jazko

NGL...Rewatching these episodes is cringing me so bad. Though in a time period similar to their's, scumbags like Paul were prevalent. And Rudy, yeah 40yo bum

Hakurei Oni
>>57141148

Translation isn't off, Paul did sexually assault Lilia, it's in the web novel too. I think the manga toned it down, but the web novel and anime state he at the very least assaulted her while they were young

Conf3tti
>>57142457

The cringe is gonna be rough when episode 8 rolls around

Idrees Centauri
>>57142457

same man, i felt uncomfortable the first time, but watching it the second time with these guys was even worse. This show would be so fucking dope without all the perverted shit

Hakurei Oni

The people saying Paul didn't assault Lilia are flat out wrong. I think the manga tones down the context of what happened, but based on the novel Paul did at the very least force himself on Lilia while they were younger. They never state if it was full-on r*** but they do state that Paul "took her by surprise" and "forced himself on her". Paul is scum, it's his whole deal, he doe shave some good sides but also some overwhelming bad that's his whole thing

Kurumi
>>57141148

it is off.. and thats not what it says in the web novel.. stop spreading bad info.. In the web novel like many other women in town Lilia seduced Paul. It was consensual.. thats the whole purpose of rudy making up that story to save her.. Also side note Lilia who is a former royal guard definetly would'nt let someone rape her and then work for him without a fight.. The way the situation is worded sounds bad the only crime Paul commited was going into the girls dorm in the dojo and he was chased away

sim
>>57140328

his wife was prego, not saying paul isnt scum but she was preg so hes not going to have sex with his wife during that time

Kurumi

the misinformation still being spread weeks later is horrendous..THERE WAS NO RAPE..

sim

paul is scum for cheating, but the translations are off from the web novel like someone else already explained

Zana
>>57140328

his wife was prego at the same time as the maid. didnt found out later that she was prego. so at the flashback when paul was looking at the maid, which mean that the wife was not prego yet.

Devin B
>>57141148

@Jalen the translation is not off. Paul didn't assault her when he got Lilia pregnant but he did when they were younger. In the manga she said to Rudy that she had her first experience forcefully taken from her by Paul and that Paul was expelled afterwards. She was looking for a job and used her "connection" with Paul to be their maid.

Devin B
>>57143243

Nah it's basically the same in the manga. Lilia told Rudy that Paul forcefully took her first time.

Allison Veluz

I can see the disappointment on their faces grow as Paul keeps talking lol

BreadMan

Lupa has me dyin xD

TheToweringOtakunt

Another Monday, another 500 comments worth of Mushoku Tensei conniption fits...

Michael Allen

LMAO I can't with Lupa man is too funny

L.C.

Why did I already see that bio for this reaction coming as soon as I saw the episode number lol

Kurumi
>>57141148

no he didn't in the actual original japaneese source its never stated that it was "forcefully taken" that was an english mistranslation in the manga which you can't even find anymore btw becuase it was corrected. You should read the WN theres an entire chapter dedicated to it and it shows both pov's.. on top of that use common sense.. she was just a strong as him during training you really think she would let him rape her? then come work for him as a maid & remain friends? btw there's mulptiple instances of mistranslations in the manga the earlier volumes were poorly done

Alex cleveland

I already can tell Ima like Sheera's reaction to this lol. She's pregnant so I wonder how she's gonna react lmaoo... Paul a whole Horndog

L.C.

I died at "BEND OVER! COME GET SOME FUCK". Bruh lupa be too much sometimes

Hakurei Oni
>>57144679

There was, the web novel confirms it, they removed it from the official translations of the Novel in the US for censorship purposes.

Hakurei Oni
>>57144773

No, the US version of the web novel is censored, the Japanese web novel specifically mentions sexual assault. The translators for the US web novels admitted to toning down the darker scenes

Thamor
>>57143243

But she says at the same time that she didn't mind and was interested in him (Paul). Still doesn't make it right for Paul. One of the hardest things for many viewers is to accept that this isn't modern woke culture, but more medieval time period culture. Females can be strong warriors, but it's still man's world like it was in our history.

Kurumi
>>57144679

the web novel literally details the pov and blantanly says how Paul sneaks into her room and SHE allows him to take her virginity.. that isn't rape bro understand context first before spreading false info. Otherwise why feel no ill will torwards him?why not fight him when you're both in sword training? why work for him?

Hakurei Oni
>>57143243

Yea I like that the series has a lot of nuance to the situations. Where not every situation has a clear cut answer. In the Lilia / Paul case my interpretation is that what Paul did was very wrong and he did force himself, but at the same time Lilia had feelings for him too and while she didn't want to have sex with him, she didn't hate it either. It's a very messy and unclear but realistic situation

James Yoder

Paul will always be trash

Kurumi
>>57144679

yes they were talking about the encounter at the dojo when they were younger.. the anime and manga mistranlated what happened and used the word "assault".. which wasn't the context of the situation. In the WN its stated how most of the girls in the dojo tried to seduce Paul and went into detail about the crush Lilia had on him.. so when Paul snuck into the girls dorm she seduced and allowed him to take her virginity he was caught and chased away.. thats what happened

Hakurei Oni
>>57144679

Dude, if you break into someone's room and force yourself on them, that's assault and possibly rape even if the person doesn't fight back wtf are you talking about. Lilia says that she didn't want it but didn't hate it either, that isn't consent, she just allowed Paul to have her way with her because she had mixed feelings. It's a very realistic scenario that happens all the time IRL too, it's still rape. You can't just jump on a woman and start inserting and then say "well she didn't fight back".

Kurumi
>>57144679

and its stated nowhere in the original source that he "forced himself" so no its not rape.. the whole "forced' thing was a english mistranslation which was later corrected..

Senpai

I shouldn't have laughed at these comments as hard as I did.

None None
>>57144773

Are you sure that's not the fan translator taking liberties? Because it just says that he got pissy toward her family one night and decided he was gonna fuck her to spite them, so he just snuck into her room one night and "seduced her into giving up her virginity" (and her side of the story clarifies that, yes, she was just too entranced by how hot he was to turn him down). That sounds like the correct translation to me, given their present day relationship. (I really don't think she'd be telling a kid "and one time he raped me hahaha" if that's what happened) It WAS consensual, even if the surrounding circumstances are more than a bit scummy.

magentoe

paul fucked up bad here

magentoe

btw rudy threw paul under the bus to save lilia and her child, not to spite him or get revenge.

Marcus Martindale

From what I got from the manga and remember. For the whole affair thing it was mutual and Paul was just thrown under the bus to prevent the maid from getting in trouble. I don’t remember what was said about the academy but how I look at it is Pauls basically a slut, he will F anything that lets him

Hakurei Oni
>>57144773

I doubt it's the fan translation taking liberties because Seven Seas, the official English translators, admitted to censoring that portion of the LN for being "too graphic" so if it wasn't sexual assaults it wouldn't have been censored lol. From my interpretation what happened is a mixed bag, Paul broke into her dorm and forced himself on her. But because she already had feelings for him she went along with it. that doesn't mean it isn't rape though. He very clearly broke in and aggressively went after her and coerced her into sleeping with him when she otherwise wouldn't have. He may not have beat her and tied her up, but being aggressive and coercive and manipulating someone who you know ahs feelings for you into sleeping with you is a form of assault. Either way it's semantic, the point is Paul is scum and what he did was supremely scummy and abusive at best

JsnSkg
>>57147707

I don't think you can really assume that when something called character development exists, and considering only one cour has aired. Not defending him as he is now, just saying that it is within the realm of possibility to go through drastic character development and work hard for redemption.

Doughboy 1027

Want to know how to avoid cheating? Be a man and tell any women that you are dealing with the truth. That you still like women, you're still attracted to them and you will continue to sleep with them. That way you give her the choice of f*cking with you or not, which is rightfully hers.

Taylor Moon
>>57140328

you can have sex with pregnant women though so I don't understand your point.........

Oax Al

Yes Paul is trash, yes there's an argument to be had that he may or may not be a R**ist. From his POV he did the deed with a sleeping girl who didn't give consent beforehand. From her POV she could've fought him off she wanted to, but she didn't. I vaguely remember her saying that this was the only way she felt she could be with him, but could be dead wrong don't quote me. Definitely sus AF. Flawed character capable of breaking makes for an interesting character which is why people probably like him.

Panda
>>57157902

I feel this, honestly i dont believe Paul is excusable at all. From his POV he did wrong, and the only POV you have in life is your own. So regardless how she felt, Paul was unaware of that and still acted. That said i really enjoy his character, he has some good qualities to him while being very much flawed and a POS. This all leads me to believe/hope that he will have a good character development in the long run, similar to Endeavor in MHA.

Baren Nerab

yeah man you don't want sylphie to turn into sarah from the walking dead amirite? rudy protecting her all the time hahaha

Oax Al
>>57157902

Yup I agree your POV is the only one you have. Her POV is still valid though so it makes it a sticky situation in my opinion, but that doesn't mean it excuses Paul's behavior. Unless you and a partner have both agreed you want to play like that, probably shouldn't be doing that to people.

Xandanx

So who else thinks they gonna stop watching the show when they hit episode 8 ? 😂

Devin B
>>57141148

@Jalen yeah I might just check the WN just to check the accuracy of that scene. And I was just basing the whole situation on Lilia's wording in the manga but if they mistranslated the actual source then idk.

Xandanx
>>57159866

Oh Forsure, honestly this show can do so much more without the fan service/ echi stuff they put in. Such a waste of potential 😪

Tev Overhaul
>>57159866

Is this because a certain reactor had dropped the series because of episode 8? Lol think about it this way they didn't drop the promise to neverland they stick with it to the end, I think we should be positive plus episode 7 should give us an idea cause they actually pay attention to the story but sometimes Lupa be in his own world Lmaoo depending if he mad at the show for a certain thing

Xandanx
>>57159866

@overhaul, yes lmao, struckbybelz right ? 😂 and yea but if you watch their sword art online reaction roshi said that lupa didn’t want to be apart of it because of what they did in the Alfheim arc, I’m assuming he meant cuz of the asuna scene. So if that’s the case it might be the same thing with this, if not at least lupa might not be apart of it. Either way I know the show has its flaws but I just hope they rough it out cuz the show is good so far.

TheBagSenpai
>>57159866

Which is unfortunate, because episode 8 introduced some hype characters. Or was that the episode after that?

Homeskilletbiscuits

There's some details cut out but Lilia did seduce Paul and Rudy saved her. Zenith was the one who was going to decide her fate so instead of her taking her anger out on Lilia, Rudy manipulated the situation by telling a lie so that Zenith would only be mad at Paul. The after effects of Lilia being sent away and dying would have been worse and probably would have destroyed their family.

A1_MiLFshAkE
>>57159866

Yea not too sure Struckbybelz was put off by it hoping this squad can get past it bc its an enjoyable show even w/ it's ecchi & fanservice

eastbaynick
>>57159866

nah I dont think so. Plus Ive read the author made rudy gradually less perverted

Tev Overhaul
>>57159866

@ Daniel, Lmfaoo Mhm, pretty much explains why each week the comment section is chaotic. I haven’t watched this week reaction but I know for sure episodes 7 should give me idea regarding Lupa. I agree I know the show flaws and I don’t agree with Rudy action but idk if people will notice ... regarding what Rudy does he pays the price for his action.

Ben2730
>>57159866

i wouldnt even mind if they quit the show ... like its abit weird and disgusting especially when it involves kids

TheBagSenpai
>>57159866

@easy, the problem isn't that Rudy's perverted, they've reacted to Prison School before, every character's the literal embodiment of perversion. The issue with this show is that the MC is a pedo, who's been reincarnated into a child. So it makes it both hilarious, and incredibly awkward to watch.

PolarToni
>>57159866

it's practically nothing. they're not gonna drop the show lmao

Skebaba
>>57155125

Ah, but Zenith knows this, and tbf she is ALSO TRASH, so the 2 shit-tier garbo humans deserve each other, IMO. We may or may not learn of the full backstory etc in the future, depending on what stuff they skip (maybe not, since they seem to have been skipping the side stories and chapters entirely so far in the series, so eh)

lilmagi
>>57144679

"Or how Paul would skip training in order to gallivant around town. Or how Paul had forced himself on her in the middle of the night and taken her virtue. Or how Paul had eventually fled the training hall." Bit by bit, Lilia opened up to me about all that. The more she told me about the past, the more my opinion of Paul dropped. He was a rapist and a cheater. He was trash." Not to mention all the other advances Paul did towards her: "At first, Paul didn’t try to make any moves on me. Every so often, though, he’d treat me to a sneaky grope that just got me all the more worked up. I was able to resist, but I was fully aware that I was walking a very thin line." That is from REVISED volume 1, Seven Seas also removed the assault on Eris in volume 2, which they revised in later re-releases. Face it, Paul is rapist trash that Seven Seas at first censured out, but they revised it after public complained. You should read about it.

KasaiKouhai
>>57159866

Oh I completely disagree, the series isn’t complete without the sexual themes

Elijah Webb

LOL this reaction hilarious

Enkyri
>>57159866

Let's be perfectly honest here. Struckbybelz are very immature in the way they think. Especially the dude. I don't expect Roshi & the gang to have the same reaction, but honestly, the scene really isn't that big of a deal anyway. If you want to be practical about it, Rudy is reincarnated. So, going for girls his own age really isn't as weird as we want it to be. I mean is he supposed to be a 5-10-year-old boy going for 40-year-old women???

Tev Overhaul
>>57159866

Steph was uncomfortable u can tell base on how many times he paused it in their full reaction the way and I wasn’t a fan on how he handle it on how he addressed certain things cause he watches dragon ball and master roshi does a lot but that’s another topic but he was in the moment at that time as for bel she was willingly to move past it cause she interested the turning point of the story but she saw how Steph wasn’t feeling it and Stan by her man so it’s understandable in her defense

None None
>>57159866

Are you sure Lupa just didn't just dislike the Alfheim arc because it's trash?

Kurumi
>>57144679

u just proved my point of what I was talking bout.. Seven Seas butchered the first couple of volumes on the translation.. and then tried to redo it and still fucked up. In the original japanesse text(which I've read) it was more described as Lilia being scared it was her first time and wasn't sure if she should go through with it but ultimately decided she wanted it and allowed him to take her virginity. Rifujin(the author) even confirms this and says he knew how bad people would misunderstand from the translation and was prepared to take the backlash.. Nice copy & paste from reddit tho bud

Hakurei Oni
>>57144679

Bro that logic doesn't even make sense, Seven Seas admitted that they censored that scene because it contains assault. They didn't "redo it". Also the author NEVER said that, where's your proof? Several translations and translators confirmed it was explicitly described as assault. I've read the text, in Japanese (日本語分かります）and its the same. The only confusion that come sin is that Lilia does admit that she was into Paul and "didn't hate it" which is why she doesn't hold it against him, but he did force himself on her, grope her, and push her into having sex with him when she wasn't ready...that's assault. The only people worse than Paul are people who unironically try to defend him when the whole point of his character is to show how much of a scummy womanizer he is.

lilmagi
>>57144679

@jalen " Nice copy & paste from reddit tho bud" What are you on about? I just copy pasted the text directly from the revised ebook.Do you want a screenshot or something? No idea why you are mentioning reddit of all things. And Hakurei is right, it was still an assault, Lilia just forgave him and also used it against him in order to get hired as a maid. That doesn't change the fact that Paul is a rapist trash.

Kurumi
>>57144679

the word "assault" was never mentioned in the backstory.. Rudy was the one who thought it was assault. You clearly haven't read it.. as for my proof the aunthor's twitter account. You're using your own head cannon at this point kid lol.. and I'm not defending him of being a scummy womanizer.. thats how his character is suppose to be written but accusing him of rape when its never said or implied in the actual original source is worth a defense since you're spreading false info to non readers..

Kurumi
>>57144679

like I said the same mistranslated passage thats on reddit lol..and that isn't why she was hired wtf lmao. Seems you haven't read it either bro.. She was hired because she was the only applicant experienced in child care which gave her special priority above the others since Zennith was literally about to give birth

Kurumi
>>57144679

But im done arguing with the both of you lol comeback to me when you learn another languauge and actually read the source material.

Jazmyne Mattucci
>>57159866

I dont think they will drop it after epi 8 only because right after that bad scene, the new arc begins and boy is that arc amazing. I almost dropped it too but since they thankfully didnt end the epi on that shit scene, i kept watching.

lilmagi
>>57144679

It's not false info if it's in the official translation: https://i.imgur.com/mFTIrPR.png forcing yourself on someone is rape, so I agree with Rudy. https://i.imgur.com/Drkbcmr.png And sure I misremembered, the leverage part as the sole reason. But sure be dismissive if you want, there is no point as the info is here and other people can make up their own mind.

DabnDab

Great react guys

vanity
>>57139431

@Coco I can’t agree with that at all he almost tore apart the family this episode and showed in the next one he hasn’t learnt anything in the letter he’s an ass

Christopher M

16:40 is it me, or was Sherra singing the "Blues clues" letter theme?

Damian Minor

Rudy Kelly and Paul Cosby

Eli Kisamo

Lupa be on demon time bruh

KasaiKouhai
>>57139431

Keep in mind that most people who like Paul have read the light novel so they’ve seen all of Paul’s arc. Right now I agree he’s a piece of human garbage

KasaiKouhai
>>57140328

In this world they don’t know that, humanity only found that out because of modern medicine

Anonymous

lupa is an annoying homophobe. love the channel tho.

skratadu

man i love lupa's reaction

Daniel Borrego
>>57143243

in the light novel paul snuck into lilia's room at the sword school they both attended and raped her because he wanted to get revenge on the people who looked down on him there. he then fled. Lilia eventually went on to become a body guard for a princess and was injured by a poison during an assasination attempt. she survived but the poison damaged her body enough that she could not fight anymore. she had learned various things as an aid to a princess so she decided to become a maid. she found an ad at the guild, i think, and it was paul looking for a housekeeper/midwife. she was going to blackmail him to let her work there, but found he had changed and was hired.

ok
>>72341129

except it was ROXY who was doing that not her ... edit: nvm they let him know he clapped himself finally

ok

I love you all but you guys really manage to go such long periods without absorbing any info its impressive sometimes. i sound like such a douche for that but its just true

ok
>>57140328

that's assuming this world is the same world as our world lol

Vayne

ive never noticed even after watching this show back like 6 times over, but when Paul is asking if Rudy is starting to be more interested in girls he's literally patting his dick wtf lmao.